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Old 02-27-2008, 07:12 AM   #1
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Organ donor?

So I have been thinking about endorsing my license for organ donation (except for my liver of course ) but i am struggling with the decision.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/us...nted=2&_r=1&hp

In this article the prosecutors say a surgeon hastened the death of one patient in order to harvest his organs. The organ donation advocate organizations say that it is a myth that it never happens. But i want to know what prevents that from happening? Laws and policies? I dont think that's good enough. There is a fundamental conflict of interest that transplant surgeons have and i can understand that. One guy is almost 90% dead. His organs could save life of many others. Why not go ahead and "help him on the way"?

So educate me with your opinions...
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we ride motorcycles. we're all organ donors.

fo reel tho, im an organ donor. ive heard the myths, but dont believe them. besides, if im "90% dead", i do NOT want to come back from taht .
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we ride motorcycles. we're all organ donors.

fo reel tho, im an organ donor. ive heard the myths, but dont believe them. besides, if im "90% dead", i do NOT want to come back from taht .
yeah true, cagers call us "organ donors". And it makes sense!
But i am looking at that from scientific point of view - where is the guarantee that my exist won't be hastened for the sake of my organs... See I worry about it because unlike some of you on this board after i die i'll have to go to so i am not in a rush to do it
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yeah true, cagers call us "organ donors". And it makes sense!
But i am looking at that from scientific point of view - where is the guarantee that my exist won't be hastened for the sake of my organs... See I worry about it because unlike some of you on this board after i die i'll have to go to so i am not in a rush to do it
There is no guarantee in life. NONE!!

(actually there are two... death & taxes)
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There is no guarantee in life. NONE!!

(actually there are two... death & taxes)
true. so even if you have *not* endorsed your license for organ donation there is no guarantee that they wont be taken out after ur death. But in that case it would be a clear cut law breaking. Compare the two scenarios:

1) A person refused organ donation, but was near death when his life support was disconnected and organs donated
2) A person endorsed organ donation, was near death (but not quite dead yet) and surgeon made a decision to take his organs out

You see how 1) is a clear cut crime, while 2) is in the gray area...
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Lex, I understand your dilemna. I feel like this: in being a organ donor, the donor is doing so to better another's life. I believe donors do so with no effect on personal well-being. In other words, if you don't want the plug pulled select no. If you truelly wish to help others out, select yes.
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Lex, I understand your dilemna. I feel like this: in being a organ donor, the donor is doing so to better another's life. I believe donors do so with no effect on personal well-being. In other words, if you don't want the plug pulled select no. If you truelly wish to help others out, select yes.
Ha! thats a very good way to look at it...
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So I have been thinking about endorsing my license for organ donation (except for my liver of course ) but i am struggling with the decision.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/us...nted=2&_r=1&hp

In this article the prosecutors say a surgeon hastened the death of one patient in order to harvest his organs. The organ donation advocate organizations say that it is a myth that it never happens. But i want to know what prevents that from happening? Laws and policies? I dont think that's good enough. There is a fundamental conflict of interest that transplant surgeons have and i can understand that. One guy is almost 90% dead. His organs could save life of many others. Why not go ahead and "help him on the way"?

So educate me with your opinions...

I am an organ donor and my mom kept telling me about these types of situations to prevent me from sending out that form. The reason I am okay with it is that it can really help someone else who might be in line for a kidney, liver, heart, etc and might need it more that I do (if I have no chance to live).

But then again, I have recently thought about it and for more personal reasons, I might change my mind.
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yeah i do that too. Once i heard on the radio show ("this american life" - one of my favorite radio shows) a story about a teenage girl who needed a transplant and got it from a teenage undocumented hispanic boy who was shot in a gang shooting by mistake. His parents were grief-stricken but gave consent to the transplant and the story was about this teenage girl that grew up with that boy's heart and years afterwards tried to locate the family of the boy. It was a very emotional story.
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yeah i do that too. Once i heard on the radio show ("this american life" - one of my favorite radio shows) a story about a teenage girl who needed a transplant and got it from a teenage undocumented hispanic boy who was shot in a gang shooting by mistake. His parents were grief-stricken but gave consent to the transplant and the story was about this teenage girl that grew up with that boy's heart and years afterwards tried to locate the family of the boy. It was a very emotional story.
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http://www.thisamericanlife.com/Radi...aspx?year=2007

the show is #345 "Ties That Bind" if you wanna listen to it
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My Bf's brother works for Life Gift. That is the company that harvests the organs and delivers them to the doctors to do the transplants. He is in charge of all of the renal division (kidney.)
From what he said they dont even usually bother with motorcycle accident victims because the kidneys are get so bruised most of the time. There are a lot of other reasons for rejection also such as HIV and other infections.
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we ride motorcycles. we're all organ donors.

fo reel tho, im an organ donor. ive heard the myths, but dont believe them. besides, if im "90% dead", i do NOT want to come back from taht .
What do you call a sport bike rider.........an organ doner.
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What do you call a sport bike rider.........an organ doner.
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I've only had to deal with life gift a fews times (I'm an ICU nurse) but I believe that they have to get permission from next of kin before they can harvest the organs. So it doesn't matter what your dl says. In addition, it is ususally brain dead (or no chance or meaningful recovery) patients that are candidates for donation. Patients that have terminal diseases or non functioning organs can sometimes still donate corneas and tissue. Please discuss this issue with your family (AND have a living will!!). They will ultimately be the ones making the decision. Deb
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but i dont have any of my family living in the states, they will be pretty hard to reach... i think i will keep thinking about the issue of organ donation still...
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I've only had to deal with life gift a fews times (I'm an ICU nurse) but I believe that they have to get permission from next of kin before they can harvest the organs. So it doesn't matter what your dl says. In addition, it is ususally brain dead (or no chance or meaningful recovery) patients that are candidates for donation. Patients that have terminal diseases or non functioning organs can sometimes still donate corneas and tissue. Please discuss this issue with your family (AND have a living will!!). They will ultimately be the ones making the decision. Deb
very true, your family has the ultimate decision over what happens to you after you've passed away. In my opinion, don't bother with the sticker on your driver's license. I read something really upsetting during my EMT class about Mass Casualty Incident protocols and organ donor patients. IMO, just talk to your family about your final wishes and skip the DL organ donor identification.
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but i dont have any of my family living in the states, they will be pretty hard to reach... i think i will keep thinking about the issue of organ donation still...
put one of your close family member's phone numbers on the back of your DL with a sharpie marker as a next of kin contact for the police/hospital to use. That's what I have on mine.
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