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Old 02-24-2008, 01:24 PM   #21
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please... msf, erc, abc, etc.. would not help ANYONE in that case...
you are CRAZY. that video was like SLOOOOW motion. MSF does teach you to use these little things that are so cool. they are often on the handlebars...you know...

THEY ARE CALLED MIRRORS. you dont need eyes in the back of your head. just need to glance in your mirror.

that vid looked more like a suicide to me. he had soooo much time to react. that scooter might not go forward fast, but it can change lanes plenty fast enough.

it just reminded me of the scene in austin powers where the bulldozer is 50 feet away. and hes like "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.. ..."

all he had to do was sidestep.
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you are CRAZY. that video was like SLOOOOW motion. MSF does teach you to use these little things that are so cool. they are often on the handlebars...you know...

THEY ARE CALLED MIRRORS. you dont need eyes in the back of your head. just need to glance in your mirror.

that vid looked more like a suicide to me. he had soooo much time to react. that scooter might not go forward fast, but it can change lanes plenty fast enough.

it just reminded me of the scene in austin powers where the bulldozer is 50 feet away. and hes like "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.. ..."

all he had to do was sidestep.
You guys are making this msf thing waaaay more than what it is. Msf is just one tool to help you be a better and safer rider. Maturity, experience, temperament, and yes msf all play a role but each one is not an end all solution. It’s ridiculous how many comments I see about how this or that accident could have been prevented if that person had taken the msf. First of all, how do you know for a fact that he/she did not take the msf. You know, it is possible to take the msf and still up or be in an accident. Second of all, you assume that if a person takes the msf, he/she automatically has a certain ability to avoid accidents or is at a homogenous level of riding. That like saying if Michael Jordan taught a group of people how to play basketball, that at the end of the day, everyone of them should be able to sink three pointers at the same percentage. Face the facts guys, as handy as the course is not everybody taking the msf is going to able to avoid accidents…
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it just reminded me of the scene in austin powers where the bulldozer is 50 feet away. and hes like "noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.. ..."

all he had to do was sidestep.
this isnt a movie.


and the bulldozer was in FRONT of him.
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Dose MSF make you invencible to bullets too? JK
no, but if you took the msf you would know the bullet was coming and if you got hit it would be your fault because you had plenty of time to react and dodge it.
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no, but if you took the msf you would know the bullet was coming and if you got hit it would be your fault because you had plenty of time to react and dodge it.
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no, but if you took the msf you would know the bullet was coming and if you got hit it would be your fault because you had plenty of time to react and dodge it.
So I can dodge bullets????? Coool!
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i never said MSF would have saved his life in that situation, but it COULD have. there is a possibility that he could have picked up the habit of being more aware....

or learning how to turn....maybe the guy saw it coming but didnt know how to swerve yet? they DO teach you that.

what are you trying to say? no one should take MSF cause you might get hit by a truck anyways?

if you still think its a good idea to take MSF, but just want to say it might not save you from every situation, then this is the most pointless and useless thread i have seen in years.
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nope. my point is that no matter what accident it is, someone will always nitpick and say "well if only they had the msf, that gang wouldnt have robbed him and raped his sister". or something to that effect.
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nope. my point is that no matter what accident it is, someone will always nitpick and say "well if only they had the msf, that gang wouldnt have robbed him and raped his sister". or something to that effect.
I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing when an accident is picked over. We can all learn something from every accident about what happened and what not to do. I think the manner in how it is disected is what makes it in poor taste or not.
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if you still think its a good idea to take MSF, but just want to say it might not save you from every situation, then this is the most pointless and useless thread i have seen in years.
i think you continuing to defend a losing argument is the most pointless and useless thing i've seen in years..
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I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing when an accident is picked over. We can all learn something from every accident about what happened and what not to do. I think the manner in how it is disected is what makes it in poor taste or not.
yep.. what i learned here is not to drive a scooter in front of a non-attentive truck driver in asia..
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yep.. what i learned here is not to drive a scooter in front of a non-attentive truck driver in asia..

pfft... houston is just as bad.
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You guys are making this msf thing waaaay more than what it is. Msf is just one tool to help you be a better and safer rider. Maturity, experience, temperament, and yes msf all play a role but each one is not an end all solution. It’s ridiculous how many comments I see about how this or that accident could have been prevented if that person had taken the msf. First of all, how do you know for a fact that he/she did not take the msf. You know, it is possible to take the msf and still up or be in an accident. Second of all, you assume that if a person takes the msf, he/she automatically has a certain ability to avoid accidents or is at a homogenous level of riding. That like saying if Michael Jordan taught a group of people how to play basketball, that at the end of the day, everyone of them should be able to sink three pointers at the same percentage. Face the facts guys, as handy as the course is not everybody taking the msf is going to able to avoid accidents…

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, how would you know about the MSF? you've never taken the class or observed it. facts are 90% of motorcycle deaths are people who were taught by family and friends, is that 100% nope. but the odds are alot in your favor of surviving if you take the class, but i'm sure w/ your few months of riding you know everything there is to know right?

who would make a better basketball coach? M/J or me, MSF is no diff. except your life depends on your riding.
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