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Old 02-20-2008, 09:36 AM   #1
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any other noob track days?

I was planning on attending the 3/8 noob track day but will be out of the country. I looked at the schedule for another noob track day but didn't see one. Anyone know when another noob day is? If there is not another one, which track would you guys recommend for someone who has been riding for couple years but never done a trackday? Thanks for ya'lls opinions!
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LSTD C group for your first time out....I personally think that is a good group for noobs who have some seat time under their belts, but have yet to experience the track.
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yeah, if you can't attend buck's trackdays....i would recommend LSTD "C" with instruction as well.

not sure how Texas Trackdays run, but i'm sure with the good group of guys helping instructing with them, that is another appealing option for a noob.

and street experience means little to nothing when it comes to the track. be prepared for an awakening.
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and street experience means little to nothing when it comes to the track...
I have to disagree w/ that. If you're smooth on the throttle & brakes on the street, those skills will transition greatly to the track.

Also, look up Ridesmart as well. They have a beginner group just like the other orgs and offer classroom & on-track instruction all day long, and it is included in the trackday fee.
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I have to disagree w/ that. If you're smooth on the throttle & brakes on the street, those skills will transition greatly to the track.
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now being "fast" on the street means absolutely nothing once you get to the track, but having SOLID seat time and good braking & throttle control will help tremendously
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I have to disagree w/ that. If you're smooth on the throttle & brakes on the street, those skills will transition greatly to the track.
Also, look up Ridesmart as well. They have a beginner group just like the other orgs and offer classroom & on-track instruction all day long, and it is included in the trackday fee.
i would have to say being smooth on the throttle and brakes are in everybody's street riding, MOST tracks offer more traction which will allow harder throttling and braking. which means the track is more forgiving with mistakes.

granted lots of seat time on the street is helpful in getting onto the track, the track is a different beast, and must be tamed in a different manner. street skills doesn't offer much when transfering over to the track....more like track skills offer more when transfering over to the street.

just my opinion though. i've seen many street riders become humbled when they touch the track's pavement....including myself. my years of street experience only made learning how to ride the track more difficult because of all the bad habits i picked up by not knowing how to ride properly.
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i would have to say being smooth on the throttle and brakes are in everybody's street riding, MOST tracks offer more traction which will allow harder throttling and braking. which means the track is more forgiving with mistakes.

granted lots of seat time on the street is helpful in getting onto the track, the track is a different beast, and must be tamed in a different manner. street skills doesn't offer much when transfering over to the track....more like track skills offer more when transfering over to the street.

just my opinion though. i've seen many street riders become humbled when they touch the track's pavement....including myself. my years of street experience only made learning how to ride the track more difficult because of all the bad habits i picked up by not knowing how to ride properly.
True. They are different animals. I also agree that some skills from the street transfer to the track, but nearly all skills from the track transition to the street.
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thanks for the input. Im just trying to get opinions on which track is best for someone that has never riden the track.
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All the track orgs have beginner level groups.
Except LMS/Longhorn Motorcycle School located at MSR Houston
LMS has certain days dedicated to the beginner track rider. All riders there will be beginners and will get a lot of attention and instruction all day.
At MSRH the track has little to no elevation change so there's no blind turns.
If your not doing your first day with LMS at Msrh a good track would be Grandsport. Smaller slower track.
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Any tracks is good for practice or beginner. Try it all to find out your favorite.
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True. They are different animals. I also agree that some skills from the street transfer to the track, but nearly all skills from the track transition to the street.
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Check the schedule at www.lstd.com and sign up for the "c" group on a non-race weekend. Grand Sport is coming up, and is about the same size and type of track as the Angleton track. MSR is a great track, but it's 4 hours away- I highly recommend that be your second track day!
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Speaking from direct experience, although it wasn't technically a trackday, I was at the open house at GSS two weeks ago. Riding the streets, my buddies and I always hunt down the back roads with great curves of all kinds. However, when I got to the track, the first two laps scared the sh*t out of me. Switchback, decreasing radius turns (these will getcha if you're not paying attention) e.t.c. Your entire is barely on the seat, in fact it feels like you're on the of you're feet the whole time from the weight transfers. However, once I got comfortable, it was amazing. Traction everywhere, you start to find your lines for each curves. You find your braking points, and the point at the end of the curve when you start to accelerate out. So yes, its an entirely different animal, and a few skills are certainly transferably from the street.
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Grand Sport is coming up, and is about the same size and type of track as the Angleton track.
Step away for the meds there Tom.................. MSRH is just under twice as long (2.4 vs. 1.3), and twice as many turns too(17 vs.9 by my count). Also 1/3 wider or more in most parts. Apples are apples, oranges are orange color.

To answer the original question.....Yes there will be at least three more NOOB days this year. We are waitting to pick form our scheduled dates so there is no conflict with the races as there would be few instructors. We should have it sorted out in a week or so and will post it up with a notice. Thanks for the interest, see you at the track.
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Plus 1!

Check the schedule at www.lstd.com and sign up for the "c" group on a non-race weekend. Grand Sport is coming up, and is about the same size and type of track as the Angleton track. MSR is a great track, but it's 4 hours away- I highly recommend that be your second track day!
ehh, MSRH is def. longer than GSS. as for the tech. side, not sure cause i haven't ridden it yet but it sure looks to be as equal.
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