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Old 02-19-2008, 12:53 PM   #1
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is it christian to not to be involved in politics???

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I think its been quoted several times but ill do it again "pay cesars things to cesar and gods things to ." Meaning follow mans/goverment laws to the extent that it doesnt conflict with gods laws. So you have to ask does following a mans rule rather than conflic with any instructions he has given us.....If the answer is yes, then YES It is christian to not be involved in politics.
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Christianity has nothing to do with "being involved" in politics. The bible says to obey the laws/government of the land. By being involved in politics, you would have to assume that the government is a democracy, which did not come into effect until long after the bible was written. So my anser is no, Christianity has nothing to do with whether or not you are involved. Un-American? IMO yes.
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Christianity has nothing to do with "being involved" in politics. The bible says to obey the laws/government of the land. By being involved in politics, you would have to assume that the government is a democracy, which did not come into effect until long after the bible was written. So my anser is no, Christianity has nothing to do with whether or not you are involved. Un-American? IMO yes.
There were forms of rulership/kingdoms/rulers/goverments back when the bible was written.
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There were forms of rulership/kingdoms/rulers/goverments back when the bible was written.
Yeah, Democracies even...sorry Cogs but it'is true...The Greeks, possibly even back in India
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I stand corrected then. Told you I am weak on politics. I will say in my studies through confirmation and such it was never taught to us (Lutheran) that we are supposed to be "involved" in our politics. :dontknow:
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Agree 100%, part of why I try and involve myself, but lack of involvement doesn't make you not a Christian.

bill, I think that is the best non-conflictive response regarding Christianity I have seen you make.
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Well said and the law of the land in the US is directly related to the bible.
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Agree 100%, part of why I try and involve myself, but lack of involvement doesn't make you not a Christian.

bill, I think that is the best non-conflictive response regarding Christianity I have seen you make.
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Would you feel the same if i instead of christians it was jewish, hindu, budist, athiest, muslim group?
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Would you feel the same if i instead of christians it was jewish, hindu, budist, athiest, muslim group?
The Jews can stay the rest should move to countries that believe in those religions. Well I was contained for one post.
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Best post I've seen from you Bill, very nice use of words in such a precise manner and I have to cosign with Cogs in acknowledging it's non-conflictive nature....
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Well said and the law of the land in the US is directly related to the bible.

100% incorrect. there shall be no official religion, hence no bible=US.

to make the bible a basis for our country is to undo what the founding fathers' wanted and why we left england in the first place. our laws are already weird enough as it is, we don't need the rule of, say, deuteronomy 13 to make it worse, or say the whole "do not wear a blend of fabric" rule. enough, you can't take a document that old and try and follow it by the letter, it's a path to destruction of society.
how about we read the bible and learn it's lessons, but rule by common sense and rational thought? rule by your mind, not by fear.
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