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Old 02-15-2008, 11:28 AM   #1
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falling satellite

read this today, pretty cool, falling satellite wil be shot down with missle

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WASHINGTON - A disabled U.S. spy satellite is likely to break into small pieces when it falls to Earth within weeks, posing little danger to humans, U.S. government officials said Monday.

Most, if any, debris that survives the intense heat of re-entry would likely fall into the oceans, which cover more than 70 percent of the planet, White House National Security Council spokesman Gordon Johndroe said. But he said the U.S. government was monitoring the satellite’s descent from orbit and examining different options to “mitigate any damage.”

The U.S. military could potentially use a missile to destroy the minivan-sized satellite in space, but one senior U.S. defense official told Reuters that was unlikely for several reasons, including concern about creating space debris, as China did when it shot down one of its satellites last year.
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Old 02-15-2008, 11:30 AM   #2
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i hope it falls in the field behind my shop....so i can sell it on ebay for millions
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I would have never thought about that. Supposedly the fuel is deadly to us if it hits the ground nearby. :dontknow: That is one reason they wanted to use a missile first. (from what i heard this morning on the radio.)
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I would have never thought about that. Supposedly the fuel is deadly to us if it hits the ground nearby. :dontknow: That is one reason they wanted to use a missile first. (from what i heard this morning on the radio.)
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i hope it falls in the field behind my shop....so i can sell it on ebay for millions
I was in Nac. when the shuttle blew up, and I dont think anyone would want like that raining down on you. Would not be good in a heavily populated area.
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James Jeffrey, a deputy national security adviser, said if the satellite is not shot down, it could release more than 1,000 pounds of hydrazine fuel as a toxic gas. The fuel could spread across an area equal to two football fields.

Cartwright said hydrazine is similar to chlorine or ammonia and affects lung tissue with symptoms including a burning sensation. If a lot is inhaled, it's deadly, he said.



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I would have never thought about that. Supposedly the fuel is deadly to us if it hits the ground nearby. :dontknow: That is one reason they wanted to use a missile first. (from what i heard this morning on the radio.)
Definitly a reason to test our space defense capabilities. I would'nt be suprised if NASA is making this thing fall from the sky.
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James Jeffrey, a deputy national security adviser, said if the satellite is not shot down, it could release more than 1,000 pounds of hydrazine fuel as a toxic gas. The fuel could spread across an area equal to two football fields.

Cartwright said hydrazine is similar to chlorine or ammonia and affects lung tissue with symptoms including a burning sensation. If a lot is inhaled, it's deadly, he said.



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yup but i like how there down playing the situation,
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James Jeffrey, a deputy national security adviser, said if the satellite is not shot down, it could release more than 1,000 pounds of hydrazine fuel as a toxic gas. The fuel could spread across an area equal to two football fields.

Cartwright said hydrazine is similar to chlorine or ammonia and affects lung tissue with symptoms including a burning sensation. If a lot is inhaled, it's deadly, he said.



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Dude, we are talking about falling out of space? You know what that does to carbon based heat resistant tiles?.... It vaporizes metals like aluminum...
And you are saying a gaseous substance will somehow survive the fall???

What bothers me is the hypocrisy of this thing:
When China did the same thing our media were calling them monsters racing to the space wars... But when it comes to us doing the same thing - we are just worried about the population and the hydrazine exposure!

Why not come out clear and say: we are testing out sattelite shooting down capabilities?
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Dude, we are talking about falling out of space? You know what that does to carbon based heat resistant tiles?.... It vaporizes metals like aluminum...
And you are saying a gaseous substance will somehow survive the fall???

What bothers me is the hypocrisy of this thing:
When China did the same thing our media were calling them monsters racing to the space wars... But when it comes to us doing the same thing - we are just worried about the population and the hydrazine exposure!

Why not come out clear and say: we are testing out sattelite shooting down capabilities?
isnt radiation a factor?
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Dude, we are talking about falling out of space? You know what that does to carbon based heat resistant tiles?.... It vaporizes metals like aluminum...
And you are saying a gaseous substance will somehow survive the fall???

What bothers me is the hypocrisy of this thing:
When China did the same thing our media were calling them monsters racing to the space wars... But when it comes to us doing the same thing - we are just worried about the population and the hydrazine exposure!

Why not come out clear and say: we are testing out sattelite shooting down capabilities?
We are just basically proving that we can do the same a China. We wouldnt be much of the worlds Super Power if China can do we cant.
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isnt radiation a factor?
They used all of those bullshit lines when the space shuttle blew up so that people would stay away from it.
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yup but i like how there down playing the situation,
Prevents public panic. They HAVE to downplay it, you know how those people are that think this is the end of the world and such. Next will be the inability of the government to do their job, yada yada yada

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Dude, we are talking about falling out of space? You know what that does to carbon based heat resistant tiles?.... It vaporizes metals like aluminum...
And you are saying a gaseous substance will somehow survive the fall???

What bothers me is the hypocrisy of this thing:
When China did the same thing our media were calling them monsters racing to the space wars... But when it comes to us doing the same thing - we are just worried about the population and the hydrazine exposure!

Why not come out clear and say: we are testing out sattelite shooting down capabilities?
While I don't know a lot about hydrazine, I do know that it isn't a gas form on the satelite. It is actually frozen. Now I don't know exactly what they have to containers made of to store them, but I'm sure they are not stored in aluminum containers. That and being frozen will keep it from heating up as much as the other parts of the satellite. Again, I'm no expert, but I trust them more than any joe blow who things this is another conspiracy theory. They will do what is needed to prevent loss of lives.
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We are just basically proving that we can do the same a China. We wouldnt be much of the worlds Super Power if China can do we cant.
and I have no problem with that! In fact I will pay my taxes just to make sure we can do the same thing... I just have problem with hypocrisy and lies... Lies are harmful... They manipulate public into horrible acts like invasion of other countries (in this particular case I am referring to german government manupulating german population in the 1930s)
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well now i know who the nerds on the board are, lol i kid i kid alex cogs abel
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While I don't know a lot about hydrazine, I do know that it isn't a gas form on the satelite. It is actually frozen. Now I don't know exactly what they have to containers made of to store them, but I'm sure they are not stored in aluminum containers. That and being frozen will keep it from heating up as much as the other parts of the satellite. Again, I'm no expert, but I trust them more than any joe blow who things this is another conspiracy theory. They will do what is needed to prevent loss of lives.
well trust me I am expert
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well now i know who the nerds on the board are, lol i kid i kid alex cogs alder
yep! I am a :nerd: and I am not hiding it oh well...
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lots of satellites have fallen from space. they never worry about those.
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lots of satellites have fallen from space. they never worry about those.
true i forgot about alot of the sats falling and disolvings in space pretty cool to see iknow this says meteor shower, but i remember some had a vid of a sattelite hiitng the atmosphere and looked something like this
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