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Old 02-14-2008, 03:27 PM   #1
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Hey, I found a set of no cut frame sliders for my F4i on ebay for $50.00 made by T-Rex racing products. Anyone know if this is a good price? i was really looking for a used 905 cage but haven't found one. Trying to protect my pretty investment. Any thoughts? Frustrated looking for this stuff..
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is that a good price though so that i don't have to cut into my pretty fairings? LOL! I know, i'm being such a girl about my baby.
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Are you stunting? If you're not a stunna, don't get the cage. Having a cage won't protect your bike from being totaled.
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:54 PM   #6
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no i'm not a stunter. I just want something to protect if i drop the bike over. I know that if something happens at high speeds then it'll be totaled but i don't care who you are, you can slide out or drop it at slow speeds for no rhyme or reason and I'm just being a girl about protected her...
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Old 02-14-2008, 03:55 PM   #7
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Look up Powers Race Rails, near same protection as a cage without the loop under the bike. They are legal on the track too. If you want a stunt cage DO NOT GO FREESTYLE INGENUITY! Tygershark is the best cage out there for protection but the cost is a bit much, Sick Innovations has a good solid solution that some of us use and it works amazing, after that would be Freestyle Ingenuity, then 905... DO NOT EVER BUY 905 CAGES, you will break stuff every time.

No cut frame sliders do not work so well, they are more for looks. A standard delrin slider from ShoGun would suffice, yeah you cut your plastics but you don't have to put your trust in an "adapter plate" that can't hold your bike's weight and end up causing frame damage on even low speed drops.
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Frame sliders won't affect cornering, a cage might...
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Frame sliders won't affect cornering, a cage might...
+1 and as far as clearance goes this is the rank:

PowersStuntworx Racerails, smallest goes from engine mount to transmission mount, no lower loop will not stick out any further than a frame slider. Legal on the track.

Tygershark, next to smallest made from solid steel, no lower loop under engine, has spring loaded sliders on the ends, if they are removed (safe to do this) it will also stick out no more than frame sliders. Legal on the track.

Sick Innovations, full welded hollow steel tubing placed at the strongest points on your bike and ran through the frame with an all thread. Does have a loop in front of exhaust, optional sliders are available.. Not legal on the track. But you would have to be super experienced to drag this cage! I have never been close to touching it down, my knee would hit first even tucked in.

Freestyle Ingenuity, bolted together hollow steel cage bolts on two mounting points on your engine mount, has loop under the bike. Will scrape with effort in the corners. Not legal on the track. Get this cage be ready to break engine mounts and stator covers anyway. Not much better than a frame slider.

905 Racing, drags and scrapes with minimal effort, dings shins because the cage is MASSIVE, will flip the bike. None of your controls or engine casings are safe with this one.

I recommend Shogun brand frame sliders, Patrick has them in stock over at Motorcycles Unlimited...

T-Rex brand is not a good brand.
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freestyle ingenuity makes a cage for the f4i and if you dont mind the 3-400 installed....they are ABSOLUTELY the way to go.....silders can break(poly) and bend(alum.) so a good ole fashioned steel cage is GREAT!

WHo the qouted you that price?
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PowersStuntworx Racerails, smallest goes from engine mount to transmission mount, no lower loop will not stick out any further than a frame slider. Legal on the track.


Wont protect anything better than standard sliders fairings will still scrape


Tygershark, next to smallest made from solid steel, no lower loop under engine, has spring loaded sliders on the ends, if they are removed (safe to do this) it will also stick out no more than frame sliders. Legal on the track.

No point in investing $500 for this overated product thats been tested that pros refuse to even use anymore

Sick Innovations, full welded hollow steel tubing placed at the strongest points on your bike and ran through the frame with an all thread. Does have a loop in front of exhaust, optional sliders are available.. Not legal on the track. But you would have to be super experienced to drag this cage! I have never been close to touching it down, my knee would hit first even tucked in.

Good cage for stunting but is hard on the frame if you do drop the bike becuase the cage does not give still a new company and time will tell on how good they protect longterm.

Freestyle Ingenuity, bolted together hollow steel cage bolts on two mounting points on your engine mount, has loop under the bike. Will scrape with effort in the corners. Not legal on the track. Get this cage be ready to break engine mounts and stator covers anyway. Not much better than a frame slider.

This is the cage of choice and is a proven cage among anyone that runs a cbr F4i parts can be individually replaced if needed and you will only have to drill two sliders holes instead of the 4 thats needed with the other cages. Works for Darius, Clayton, Javi and myself *just use locktite on the bolts and you wont have a problem. Cage loop can also be removed to allow for trackdays and faster paced street rides.

Ps. it about busting stator covers wtf you been smokin javis bike tumbled over and over and didnt even snap a brake lever

905 Racing, drags and scrapes with minimal effort, dings shins because the cage is MASSIVE, will flip the bike. None of your controls or engine casings are safe with this one.

905 use to make big bulky cages there new designs are ok but are still considered knee and shin busters

I recommend Shogun brand frame sliders, Patrick has them in stock over at Motorcycles Unlimited...

Frame sliders dont protect !!! nuff said

T-Rex brand is not a good brand

never heard of them
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with the Freestyle Ingenuity extended sliders your exhuast will not hit if the bike is knocked over.

the no cut sliders are mounted using a aluminum bracket that isnt very strong ive seen them bend or break that then the slider doesnt protect anything
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I'm just saying it can break the engine covers, it did on Clayton's and there are stories on StuntLife. But your right, most of the time when an FI cage breaks something it is because one of the 10 bolts in the cage is loose or missing. Otherwise they are a good cage because they flex more.

I have my fingers crossed about my Sick cage living up to the abuse I'll be giving it this coming year.

Joe (Prodigy) has a ton of experience with FI cages, he can find you a good deal on them too... $400 is definitely not the right price for an FI cage.
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I'm just saying it can break the engine covers, it did on Clayton's and there are stories on StuntLife. But your right, most of the time when an FI cage breaks something it is because one of the 10 bolts in the cage is loose or missing. Otherwise they are a good cage because they flex more.

I have my fingers crossed about my Sick cage living up to the abuse I'll be giving it this coming year.

Joe (Prodigy) has a ton of experience with FI cages, he can find you a good deal on them too... $400 is definitely not the right price for an FI cage.

keep in mind that most of the damage that was done on Claytons bike was unavoidable no matter what cage you would have

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and it still did its job by protecting the sides of the bike with no busted case cover
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It's on Ebay Joe!!!!! Don't get in a tissy over here! LOL. Some people are telling me to get this cage or that cage, just frame sliders, etc. etc. I just want to know what's the best idea for ME for my baby girl. I don't want her messed up in any form or fashion so that's why I'm not just ordering . Be great if I could find a used cage for a decent price. Come on Joe work your magic!!!!
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BTW I remember that! I was there watching you guys with Norm. So have Norm give you a call about the sliders or what?
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