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Old 02-11-2008, 09:02 PM   #1
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I have been debating trackdays for awhile now..

To cut costs, should I get my CMRA novice license by taking the class and just run the practice sessions for a bit till I can fullfil my obligations to ditch the Yellow shirt?
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Old 02-11-2008, 09:15 PM   #2
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It'd be cheaper to wait to get your license and just do track days for the time being.
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What are the steps oinvolved, various levels, and opportunities afforded by a CMRA license?
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yeah i went to some of the tracksites and the 1day classes price were crazy high
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I also want to do some track dayz. So were are the track at and the CMRA school? I'm new in Houston so I don't know about the area?
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www.lstd.com

You can get a bunch of info there, and they are where you can get your CMRA competiton license.

Also check out : www.cmraracing.com

Under the forms tab is the rulebook, which should answer most of your questions.
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cool, thanks.

I haven't even done a TD, but just wondered what was involved with the jump to racing.
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i would NOT try to cut costs by jumping into racing and using the provnov status as "seat time". nothing replaces the knowledge and experience you gain from trackdays. everything you pick up from trackdays will transfer to racing, and you'll learn a few more things once you're gridded up and battling it out. if you jump straight into racing without prior experience in trackdays...you are not only a danger to yourself, but to the rest of us on the grid with you. please think your decision through.


if you want to jump into racing....

you will need to take the license class and once you pass, you need to pay for the license fee. then you will become a provisional novice (yellow shirt). you must complete 2 race weekends with a minimum of 2 sprint entries per weekend (without crashing, during the race, or during practice). you must also cornerwork a saturday and a sunday.

you have a limited amount of time to complete the cornerworking and non crashing weekends.
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you could also see above and start out in TMGP.
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or you could cut costs by cornerworking for tracktime. perfect way not to spend too much and get a feel of the track experience.
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+1 to that, i saved a few bux this season by cornerworking half a friday and riding the rest. If you have a really cool wife or SO have them corner work while you ride.
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The fastest way on to the track is to do a lot of trackdays first. I have seen plenty of folks who just went to a track day to get their license and jumped right in to racing- it was a sobering experience to say the least! Some folks feel like because they're able to ride in the "A" group, that they'll be fine racing; the race pace is a whole 'nuther world from the "A" group.

My suggestion is like all the above mentioned. Hit up www.lstd.com to check the schedule of events, and pick some various tracks to ride (we run Oak Hill Raceway (Henderson), Motor Sports Ranch (Cresson), Texas World Speedway (College Station), Eagle's Canyon (Denton), Grand Sport Speedway (South Houston), and one event at Mercedes Benz Road Course (Angleton), all of which CMRA will race at this year). The more tracks you become familiar with and become proficient with, the better off you'll be when you decide to start racing. Some folks pick things up faster, some take a lot of time to get up to a fast/ safe pace.

Take advantage of the "C" group with instruction (our "noob" class/ group) as many times as you can. As mentioned, you can "trade your time for track time" and have someone cornerwork while you ride all day, or cornerwork a full day to earn a full trackday credit at another event. You can also work half day and ride the other half (which is my personal favorite), but I would make sure you do a couple of "C" groups with instruction before doing the half/ half thing.

Grand Sport Speedway is full for cornerworkers now, but I still have openings for Oak Hille on the 22nd of this month. A great place to watch some really fast folks and learn a lot by watching- I can move you around to different corners so you can get a fresh perspective.

Don't forget too, you can get CMRA license at any event LSTD does. This license will enable you to compete with any other racing organization. It costs $75 to get your license.

Let me know if yall are interested.
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You guys forgot the CCS offers a license class, and there are no further requirements. No two weekends in the corners!! The license class is offered every two weeks at MSRHouston, and is only 75.00 as well. The CMRA and CCS licenses will cross over to each organization. A race license will open up more opportinies for the rider, such as OHR and invites to racer only trackdays. Just because you have a race license, dosen't mean you are ready to race. As stated above you can't substitute trackday seat time for building skills.
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The fastest way on to the track is to do a lot of trackdays first. I have seen plenty of folks who just went to a track day to get their license and jumped right in to racing- it was a sobering experience to say the least! Some folks feel like because they're able to ride in the "A" group, that they'll be fine racing; the race pace is a whole 'nuther world from the "A" group.

My suggestion is like all the above mentioned. Hit up www.lstd.com to check the schedule of events, and pick some various tracks to ride (we run Oak Hill Raceway (Henderson), Motor Sports Ranch (Cresson), Texas World Speedway (College Station), Eagle's Canyon (Denton), Grand Sport Speedway (South Houston), and one event at Mercedes Benz Road Course (Angleton), all of which CMRA will race at this year). The more tracks you become familiar with and become proficient with, the better off you'll be when you decide to start racing. Some folks pick things up faster, some take a lot of time to get up to a fast/ safe pace.

Take advantage of the "C" group with instruction (our "noob" class/ group) as many times as you can. As mentioned, you can "trade your time for track time" and have someone cornerwork while you ride all day, or cornerwork a full day to earn a full trackday credit at another event. You can also work half day and ride the other half (which is my personal favorite), but I would make sure you do a couple of "C" groups with instruction before doing the half/ half thing.

Grand Sport Speedway is full for cornerworkers now, but I still have openings for Oak Hille on the 22nd of this month. A great place to watch some really fast folks and learn a lot by watching- I can move you around to different corners so you can get a fresh perspective.

Don't forget too, you can get CMRA license at any event LSTD does. This license will enable you to compete with any other racing organization. It costs $75 to get your license.

Let me know if yall are interested.
Excellent post, very informative. I never thought about corner working to learn a little about trackdays before I just jump in this spring. Steve over at AJ Foyt told me that I should have at least 3,000 miles of street driving before I started coming to track days and I have that. After I pay Uncle Sam I was planning on getting gear and a bike to jump into.
This option might let me learn a little more before I do it.
If I check the schedule for corner working in March, who do I need to contact? What do I need to bring and is there a class that I need to take to learn how to do it?

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If you buy a CCS license, you will have to buy a full CMRA license as well to race w/ them. You can only use a WERA or MRA license at CMRA events w/o having to buy a CMRA license.
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Check my sig mang.

Stephen is a great instructor, and has been teaching with LSTD since day one (8 years ago). Ronnie Hay, the current Lead Instructor, will hook you up with Stephen or any of the other great staff to get you the best instruction available!

As far as cornerworking, I'll get you set the day of, and there is information posted on our web site with "Cornerworking Guidelines".

We're not new to this gig, we've been doing it for 8 years now and don't plan on slowing down. Come on out and see how a really well run operation works!
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If you buy a CCS license, you will have to buy a full CMRA license as well to race w/ them. You can only use a WERA or MRA license at CMRA events w/o having to buy a CMRA license.
But you can get a CMRA license for $75 and race CCS...
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