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Old 02-08-2008, 11:32 AM   #21
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:34 AM   #22
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Is this the first time you've seen a post by RacerX?

dudes got his own smiley!

All the differences I have with RacerX, he does preach the MSF dogidly and I believe he does this because he actually cares about people being safe out there.
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My opinion, if they want to prevent accidents, make ALL drivers ride a motorcycle for 2 weeks straight. Then we might have abit more respect on the road...
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:37 AM   #24
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i have sold 20 or more helmets in a few months and all kinds of gear im always proud of that!! and i have my talk down when i try 2 get pll who come here 2 wear it... its all bout getting ur point across with out insulting if u really care they can tell.........
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My opinion, if they want to prevent accidents, make ALL drivers ride a motorcycle for 2 weeks straight. Then we might have abit more respect on the road...
i'll stay off the road then... MANY MANY people don't need that kind of power to weight ratio.
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My opinion, if they want to prevent accidents, make ALL drivers ride a motorcycle for 2 weeks straight. Then we might have abit more respect on the road...
yup, but dude...its so hard to text, talk, put on make-up, eat, read, etc while riding a motorcycle.
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i'll stay off the road then... MANY MANY people don't need that kind of power to weight ratio.
stepthrough scooters.
give them 6 horsepower and turn em loose.
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Is this the first time you've seen a post by RacerX?

dudes got his own smiley!

All the differences I have with RacerX, he does preach the MSF dogidly and I believe he does this because he actually cares about people being safe out there.
Oh I can appreciate that. All I am saying is that there are some things that can possibly be improved in the course. I am most likely going to take the advanced course, since I feel that with the time spent learning where the turn signals are and such could be temendously cut down, in order to make the class more efficient overall.
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stepthrough scooters.
give them 6 horsepower and turn em loose.
my 50 has 6 hp... and there are some people that shouldn't be on that!!!... they just need a horse and buggy
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well they are way behind the times. cuz we got a new DVD in last summer? i guess it was.

heaven, no. better then learning on your own yes, better then being taught by a friend yes.

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Oh I can appreciate that. All I am saying is that there are some things that can possibly be improved in the course. I am most likely going to take the advanced course, since I feel that with the time spent learning where the turn signals are and such could be temendously cut down, in order to make the class more efficient overall.
that has alot to do w/ the instructor. that exercise is really the first one, and should have spent about 30-45min in total getting to know how bikes work.

the prob. is , is that you have all diff. levels of experience, where you may know where the controls are, somebody may have never sat on a bike before.
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:44 AM   #31
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Oh I can appreciate that. All I am saying is that there are some things that can possibly be improved in the course. I am most likely going to take the advanced course, since I feel that with the time spent learning where the turn signals are and such could be temendously cut down, in order to make the class more efficient overall.
Thats understandable. Youve gotta remember, they have to gauge the course to cover someone walking in with no motorcycle knowledge at all. The MSF could take someone from zero to licensed motorcyclist. So, those of us that went in with a basic knowledge, could easily feel like we're beyond some of the subject matter. But you've got the right idea, if you enjoyed certain aspects of the MSF, but want more advanced training, head to the ERC. I havent taken it, but have heard good things.

You could also head to a trackday or two, from what I understand you will achieve an even higher level of control and feel for your bike.
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Old 02-08-2008, 11:53 AM   #32
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Had you ever ridden before? see I didn't even know how to turn a bike on or off and where the horn/killswitch/blinker/ and all that fun stuff was. I didnt' know about 1 down five up... lol so for me that class was awesome. oh didn't know about where the rear brake was either. Learned a lot and the money was worth it.
Granted yes, if you havent ridden before it helps. I just found those aspects should take up a smaller portion as to what we had done. And this is all from a "whether or not MSF saves lives" perspective. Got a meeting at 11.
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Had you ever ridden before? see I didn't even know how to turn a bike on or off and where the horn/killswitch/blinker/ and all that fun stuff was. I didnt' know about 1 down five up... lol so for me that class was awesome. oh didn't know about where the rear brake was either. Learned a lot and the money was worth it.
lol, I'm so gay. for months before I got my first bike I would lay in bed at night and practice clutch/throttle/brake.
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you bring up another good point that people should consider and they should probably bring up in an msf class-who you ride with. i ride with my friends, people i trust, people i know not to be stupid 120mph on the freway wheelie riding after 10 beers douchebags and guess what? not a single one of them are on motohouston.
i'm pretty sure the guy i'm talking about is on here, for sure SBM.
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I just recently took this course from RACER X, I have to say I went in with very hostel feelings toward the course. I was only going to get a ticket dismissed (driving without a license) and I couldn't manage to get a bike and a car to the DMV at 6:30 and wait all day for a drive spot to get one that way. I had been ridding for around 6 months on two different bikes and thought I had it down pretty well. Admittedly after the first half a day of videos I was still pretty sure this had been a waste of time; but once the ridding began my whole perspective changed. I learned a lot and would highly recommend the course to anyone I wish I had taken it before I had started ridding it would have made for a lot smother process.
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Only thing I found valuable from MSF was SSE. Search Scan and Evaluate. All these hours spent on "find the throttle" or "find the brake" was really annoying. That and watching those movies from the 80s like in defensive driving. But overall the affect of hearing an Instructor tell you not to be a dumb a$$ on the road was helpfull, psychologically.
I remember when I took the MSF there were a few that couldn't locate the brake, clutch, etc and looked like they had never riden a bicycle before. In fact two of them got sent home for sucking so bad.

There were a couple that had just bought a GSXR750 and never riden before. One dude couldn't keep the Ninja 250 in a stright line. Dropped it a few time.

Before I got there I asked if I could use my bike and not one of theirs. Louis said sure but we are not responsible for anything that happens like others running into you. Glad I didn't use mine because a couple of them were bouncing around like pin off each other.

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i'll disagree w/ that. taking MSF does prevent alot of accidents.
wrong dude may prevent some not all put your feet on the ground
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