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Old 02-06-2008, 04:38 PM   #21
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Here's the dealio- you'll have fun at just about any track you go to. Some have features that make things more challenging, some you'll find less challenging once you've tasted something else. Terrain and elevation changes the way you ride fo sho, so do the conditions (temperature, rain, etc). Each track is unique, and has a lot to offer.

There have been lots of folks who tasted their first track experience at places like OHR, MSR (Cresson), and Hallett (which is prolly more technical than the previous two, but you're asking for TX tracks iirc). There's nothing wrong with having your first track day at a technical track like those that offer different challenges. You can do your first at Cresson, TWS (Texas World Speedway), or where ever you choose and not have a problem. Now, is learning "easier" at a flat track like the Mercedes Benz Angleton track? Maybe, but that doesn't mean it's not challenging. Same with Grand Sport Speedway, you can learn a lot of good habits (and bad) at tracks like that with tight turns and interesting turn combinations. That goes for the big bikes and minis alike. If you can't go to a race track, have good instruction, and leave with a big 'ol smile on your face, no matter what your skill level or the challenges of that particular track, you don't belong out there anyway. Each track we go to has the potential to give you the best bang for your dollar!

So, don't get wrapped around which one is "rated" or is "more challenging" or whatever; any rider (new or veteran) will get a LOT out of any track they go to, no matter what the challenges of the track.

Take advantage of the instruction that is available, start out in the appropriate group (take the LSTD "c" group with instruction, especially if you're a "noob", not the "b" group because you're "fast on the street", it doesn't translate to the track very well) and get ready to max your credit cards and take out that home equity loan!
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Old 02-06-2008, 05:12 PM   #22
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thats just cuz u are a wuss when it come to TWS (Texas World Speedway) bill....
Ok mr ballsy what times are you getting at TWS (Texas World Speedway)? I know Sutton is faster than you there and he is turn 1:58s. I am telling you 2:02 and quicker is pretty dang quick pace for TWS (Texas World Speedway).
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:14 PM   #25
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I would think that both of you are easily running sub 2's at TWS (Texas World Speedway)
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Old 02-07-2008, 12:27 PM   #26
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Take it easy and ride with the appropriate group...

You will feel extremely gay due to your slowness (as I still do) but it beats the feeling of crashing from pushing too hard and running out of skill.

Just listen to the instructors and ride your own, comfortable, pace!
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I would think that both of you are easily running sub 2's at TWS (Texas World Speedway)
You would think but lap timers don't lie. I think my best time was a 2:00. I might be able to get a better time but I always seem to hit traffic that hold me up a little. I post some crazy stuff but I never lie about my lap times that is just silly to me. What I post is what I do.
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SV650 1:56's (unless you're Supapro... 1:49's...)
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SV650 1:56's (unless you're Supapro... 1:49's...)
to be fair I think Brandon's best on a SV is a 1:50.6 at TWS (Texas World Speedway), but that was 4 years ago as a novice

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to be fair I think Brandon's best on a SV is a 1:50.6 at TWS (Texas World Speedway), but that was 4 years ago as a novice

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to be fair I think Brandon's best on a SV is a 1:50.6 at TWS (Texas World Speedway), but that was 4 years ago as a novice

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Does he teach at LSTD?
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Brandon works at Motorcycles Unlimited
281-444-0545 he can do one-on-one instruction call him.

Brandon knows alot about suspension and what the bike is doing as well as being flat out fast. So he can help you and your bike progress together.
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So Brandon, how much would ya' charge for a day of instruction/suspension set-up?
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1:50?, Oh yea, when not at track add 2 seconds. lol
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you are doing very well Eric F. is only about 1 sec faster and that is 10 sec faster then I am on my drz with knobbies .

never mind I see who you are and yes you do very well and so does Chucky.

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1:50?, Oh yea, when not at track add 2 seconds. lol
No, he did on his SB SV when he was a novice. He turned 54's for several laps in an endurance race on Ronnie Hay's SV too... smokin'!
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Ahh, I just looked. He did 52's as a Novice Thats what I thought I remembered. I'm not baggin on 'em. Just checking my memory.

Still fast though, however you look at it.
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I'd recommend taking an LSTD group C class with instruction at the track of your choice, and then do MSRH.
+1....try TWS (Texas World Speedway) and then Cressson(small track)
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Ahh, I just looked. He did 52's as a Novice Thats what I thought I remembered. I'm not baggin on 'em. Just checking my memory.

Still fast though, however you look at it.


you are absolutely correct, as far as CMRA times are concerned, but what CMRA has posted on the site is far from my best lap at TWS (Texas World Speedway) on an SV.

i know trackday times and practice times dont count.
so guess i'm going to have to do it in a race this year then to make it official.
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