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Old 02-04-2008, 02:06 PM   #21
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its a tlr1000....

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this is the bike...
looks like he got you when it said "runs great"....welcome to MH...I'm sure others will chime in, but def. sounds like a fuel problem.
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looks like he got you when it said "runs great"....welcome to MH...I'm sure others will chime in, but def. sounds like a fuel problem.

well it ran great for like 45 mins....
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also.... bike has full yosh exhaust. is a PC needed to run correctly?
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i just recently purchased a bike that has been sitting for a couple months, and now that ive started it, it surges really bad when i accelerate.... a fuel problem? but i didnt park it like that. anyone have an idea? i cant afford to pay to have it fixed. ive changed the plugs, but they just keep getting fouled out with all the restarting.
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throttle sensor.... sounds encouraging...
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throttle sensor.... sounds encouraging...

umm... ive heard that, and i was told is was easy. but.. i need a teacher as of right now. if someone can tell me what to do "hands on", ill do it..
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definetly check your TPS with a meter... that and sync your throttle bodies. Maybe patrick will chime in soon...
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definetly check your TPS with a meter... that and sync your throttle bodies. Maybe patrick will chime in soon...
i just recently dropped it of @ Motorcycles Unlimited, but with the 4 day back up, i decided to return the bike to the previous owner.. that deal went sour at that very minute. so im stuck with it. didnt really have the cash to have it fully repaired either. thats why im trying to figure out as much as i can.

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Open the tank, and tell me what the gas smells like. Like normal, or flat and stale? Sounds like you have some varnished up stale fuel and the injectors are sticking.

And I just noticed you have a full exhaust, which definately needs recalibrating and a box.
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definetly check your TPS with a meter... that and sync your throttle bodies. Maybe patrick will chime in soon...



Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) Checking and Setting for the Suzuki TL1000S & TL1000R
TLPlanet assumes no responsibility for injury or damage caused by following these directions. The end user assumes all responsibility for the use of this material. Please also download the TPS adjustment video located here for more reference material.

(A) Checking the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS)
1.) Warm the bike up to operating temperature.
2.) Locate the Dealer Mode block under the rear seat/hump (left side on the TLR, right side on the TLS). It is the one with only 2 wires.
3.) With the ignition off, remove the rubber cover and jumper the two connectors with a paperclip or other suitable object.
4.) Start the bike and make sure it is idling at 1200 RPM.
5.) The LCD display on the tachometer should read

6.) Advance the throttle to 1400 RPM with the Fast Idle Lever.
7.)After a few seconds at 1400 RPM, the indicator in the LCD should advance to the upper mark.

8.) If the dash advances at 1400 RPM, your TPS is set correctly. If it is not set correctly move on to setting the TPS located below.

(B) Setting the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS)
Items Needed: #25 safety Torx bit (hole in middle of bit), box fan or similar if having problems with bike overeating while making adjustment.
Note: Don't worry if the bike dies when you first move the TPS. There is a white paint mark on the housing where the factory set the TPS, move it back to that and start the bike again.
1.) As stated above in checking the TPS make sure bike is up to operating temperature before trying to adjust the TPS. If the bike gets too hot it will throw off the TPS adjustment.
2.) First you will need to find the TPS which is located between the throttle bodies on the left side. It should look like the picture below.



3.) Start the bike and loosen the screws just enough to move the TPS.
4.) Check the idle is set at 1200 RPM and the bike is at normal operating temperature. Use a fan to maintain normal operating temperature if needed.
5.) Gently move (tap) the TPS up a bit (swing the bottom up towards the tank) until the display bar goes to the upper mark, once again make sure the idle is set to 1200 RPM. Give each tap a few seconds since there is a delay in the movement of the line on the LCD.
6.) When you get it to the upper mark gently tap the sensor down in the opposite direction you started (you can use a long screwdriver) until the display shows in the middle.
7.) Once it goes to the middle at 1200 RPM snap the throttle a time or two and let the idle come back and recheck the display.
8.) Once in the middle use the fast idle to see when the upper bar is displayed. If its not at around 1400 RPM just repeat the previous steps until it is. Remember to have patience. It can take many attempts to get it just right.
9.) Be sure to recheck the TPS after tightening everything down since it can be thrown off by tightening the Torx screws.




can i still check the tps, when the bike wont idle @ 1200rpm?
it stays @ 2 when @ idle.
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Throttle Position Sensor (TPS) Checking and Setting for the Suzuki TL1000S & TL1000R
TLPlanet assumes no responsibility for injury or damage caused by following these directions. The end user assumes all responsibility for the use of this material. Please also download the TPS adjustment video located here for more reference material.

(A) Checking the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS)
1.) Warm the bike up to operating temperature.
2.) Locate the Dealer Mode block under the rear seat/hump (left side on the TLR, right side on the TLS). It is the one with only 2 wires.
3.) With the ignition off, remove the rubber cover and jumper the two connectors with a paperclip or other suitable object.
4.) Start the bike and make sure it is idling at 1200 RPM.
5.) The LCD display on the tachometer should read

6.) Advance the throttle to 1400 RPM with the Fast Idle Lever.
7.)After a few seconds at 1400 RPM, the indicator in the LCD should advance to the upper mark.

8.) If the dash advances at 1400 RPM, your TPS is set correctly. If it is not set correctly move on to setting the TPS located below.

(B) Setting the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS)
Items Needed: #25 safety Torx bit (hole in middle of bit), box fan or similar if having problems with bike overeating while making adjustment.
Note: Don't worry if the bike dies when you first move the TPS. There is a white paint mark on the housing where the factory set the TPS, move it back to that and start the bike again.
1.) As stated above in checking the TPS make sure bike is up to operating temperature before trying to adjust the TPS. If the bike gets too hot it will throw off the TPS adjustment.
2.) First you will need to find the TPS which is located between the throttle bodies on the left side. It should look like the picture below.



3.) Start the bike and loosen the screws just enough to move the TPS.
4.) Check the idle is set at 1200 RPM and the bike is at normal operating temperature. Use a fan to maintain normal operating temperature if needed.
5.) Gently move (tap) the TPS up a bit (swing the bottom up towards the tank) until the display bar goes to the upper mark, once again make sure the idle is set to 1200 RPM. Give each tap a few seconds since there is a delay in the movement of the line on the LCD.
6.) When you get it to the upper mark gently tap the sensor down in the opposite direction you started (you can use a long screwdriver) until the display shows in the middle.
7.) Once it goes to the middle at 1200 RPM snap the throttle a time or two and let the idle come back and recheck the display.
8.) Once in the middle use the fast idle to see when the upper bar is displayed. If its not at around 1400 RPM just repeat the previous steps until it is. Remember to have patience. It can take many attempts to get it just right.
9.) Be sure to recheck the TPS after tightening everything down since it can be thrown off by tightening the Torx screws.




can i still check the tps, when the bike wont idle @ 1200rpm?
it stays @ 2 when @ idle.

I could not tell you... it was a different procedure on my superhawk. maybe another guy with more tl experiance can help more.
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set conditions need to be met; needs to be at 1200 to check it accurately w the diagnostic test in the cluster;

if you have a DVOM, you can manually check the tps by removing the connector for it and setting the DVOM to resistance; supply and signal return should be connected to the DVOM, then slowly move the throttle handle and make sure the signal has a steady increase/decrease w/ no flat or open spots. That will check your TPS for a dead spot that may cause incorrect fuel/rpm.

If that passes then you can set the TPS w the above test plan.

What does the bike idle at? within spec?
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Could be anything from a very dirty air filter to a TPS problem.

If you get a chance, bring it by and we'll let you know, I can probably get to it in a day or 2 max.
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Could be anything from a very dirty air filter to a TPS problem.

If you get a chance, bring it by and we'll let you know, I can probably get to it in a day or 2 max.

done deal!
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"caligontex"............. my apologies for not showing up today. when i finally got the bike started, it was around 4:20... got a flat on the way up there{tire was showing thread}... i called and left a voicemail. i made it there @ 6, which was obviously too late. i really need the help though, so if youre not upset.. maybe you can look @ it tomorrow??? sorry again maan!:/:
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good to hear ur ok and got that tire fixed. its all good; things happen on bikes... 'its the biker life' I was stuck in rain and had to turn around from willowbrook; the wind on 2920pushed me over the line and I locked up both wheels trying to stop... no joke... I let go of the front and slid the rear all the way to a stop in that horrible rain... then camped out an bw3 for an hour before riding home...

I got the voicemail but usually leave about 5ish; I was there changing out clothes when ya called, sorry; I'll be at work all day but on wednesdays I have all my kids a the church so I do need to leave by 5; we could do it at lunch if that's a possibility...
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Could be anything from a very dirty air filter to a TPS problem.

If you get a chance, bring it by and we'll let you know, I can probably get to it in a day or 2 max.

thanks for getting to my tire... i would have had to walk home! im going to try a couple different fixes for that fuel prob tomorrow, and if nothiing shakes..... ill just drop it off again and you can have @ it.

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