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Old 02-04-2008, 10:54 AM   #1
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tl1000 surging... baaad. HELP!

i just recently purchased a bike that has been sitting for a couple months, and now that ive started it, it surges really bad when i accelerate.... a fuel problem? but i didnt park it like that. anyone have an idea? i cant afford to pay to have it fixed. ive changed the plugs, but they just keep getting fouled out with all the restarting.
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make sure the linkage operates smoothly; throttles not sticking. If it had sat for an extended period w out a fuel stabilizer the gas may have separated. Did you let it idle and warm up? does the condition get worse or better afer it warms up?
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make sure the linkage operates smoothly; throttles not sticking. If it had sat for an extended period w out a fuel stabilizer the gas may have separated. Did you let it idle and warm up? does the condition get worse or better afer it warms up?


well.. the choke doesnt work, so i have to turn the gas up from that little screw next to the tank to get it to start. changed the plugs, drained the gas, and YES... it does seem to get worse when it warms up. it idles fine when started. another weird thing...... when i top off the tank, it seems to run better than when its on 1/2...1/4.
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im not familiar w the bike, but there are alot of reviews w surging from the factory; the only tech review I saw was about fuel injectors gunking up...

Fuel injected? under light acceleration is it bucking or does it seem like a constant problem, idle and any load acceleration?
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i just recently purchased a bike that has been sitting for a couple months, and now that ive started it, it surges really bad when i accelerate.... a fuel problem? but i didnt park it like that. anyone have an idea? i cant afford to pay to have it fixed. ive changed the plugs, but they just keep getting fouled out with all the restarting.
Did you buy it from some guy over off of Briar Forest / Blty 8, missing R/H turn signal?

If so, I know the dude, I was going to perform a TPS calibration to cure the stumble at tip-in but he needed to sell it.
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im not familiar w the bike, but there are alot of reviews w surging from the factory; the only tech review I saw was about fuel injectors gunking up...

Fuel injected? under light acceleration is it bucking or does it seem like a constant problem, idle and any load acceleration?





its fuel injected.
its bucking, like you said.
when i hit the gas it jerks. every now and then ill get 5 or ten minutes of good riding IF I RESTART WHILE IM IN MOTION(RIDING), but thats about it.

if by constant problem, you mean it does it all the time? YES.




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Did you buy it from some guy over off of Briar Forest / Blty 8, missing R/H turn signal?

If so, I know the dude, I was going to perform a TPS calibration to cure the stumble at tip-in but he needed to sell it.


i got it from a guy in pasadena. beltway@ spencer.. its electric blue... white rims. missing front turnsignals... same one?

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Since it is a v-twin make sure you're not feeling a miss in one of the cylinders;

I'll be honest, my bikes are 4 cyls; I did have a bucking problem that came and went on the busa; if i rode it just off of light throttle it would be fine, but when I rode over that it would surge and buck bad; my fuel pump was going out. It was worse when hot...

I don't know if there is too much I could do wo experience on the TL, but I'm close, in the woodlands area; I have a full schedule but can make time to at least go over the basics and narrow down the symptom. Im a master tech at BMW(cars), that's my experience
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I did have a bucking problem that came and went on the busa; if i rode it just off of light throttle it would be fine, but when I rode over that it would surge and buck bad; my fuel pump was going out. It was worse when hot...





thats what it does! i dunno why i couldnt just say that.
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its cool; every customer we deal w has a different way of saying something but all mean the same thing...

I would see what MofP is implying up top; PM him maybe... he may know the guy or a situation; Not sure how u'd check the fuel pressure on the bike, maybe Patrick from Motorcycles Unlimited could tell us; I have a T-gauge we could connect and ride w it to measure the pressure output if needed...
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its cool; every customer we deal w has a different way of saying something but all mean the same thing...

I would see what MofP is implying up top; PM him maybe... he may know the guy or a situation; Not sure how u'd check the fuel pressure on the bike, maybe Patrick from Motorcycles Unlimited could tell us; I have a T-gauge we could connect and ride w it to measure the pressure output if needed...

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Hows tomorrow? I get off at 5...

Not at work today so I can't stroll in to get my tools unfortunately...

Give MH some time, someone else may have some ideas, experience on this situation w a TL.

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hey if you need a job i can prob get you working where im at ...they are always looking for people people to help around the office or the construction zones
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definitely sounds like it's lacking fuel.
What year? (how sure are you that it's fuel injected?)
When the bike, or anyhting lacks fuel, it will basically die, till it's able to get enough fuel to run, so at lower RPM's it's able to fire and run. It is fairly easy to pull the injectors and check their spray pattern, to see if they are clogged. I also have a fuel pressure testing setup. My schedule is fairly limited, and i'm also at least an hour from you. Try PM'ing Chad (TheMagicMan) to see if he'd help you out. He's near you (1960 & 249).
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i got it from a guy in pasadena. beltway@ spencer.. its electric blue... white rims. missing front turnsignals... same one?
Sounds familiar. He did move his to his grandmother's house when my bike was stolen. I think his was an 01. Anyway, the throttle positioning sensor is the common issue with these bikes. It will cause a stumble at tip in because the sensor needs to be recalibrated. You won't be getting proper fuel and timing otherwise. You'll need a voltmeter to accomplish this. We were also going to change the fuel filter and Seafoam out the tank and throttle bodies. Your's is really a TL-S 1000, correct?
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Sounds familiar. He did move his to his grandmother's house when my bike was stolen. I think his was an 01. Anyway, the throttle positioning sensor is the common issue with these bikes. It will cause a stumble at tip in because the sensor needs to be recalibrated. You won't be getting proper fuel and timing otherwise. You'll need a voltmeter to accomplish this. We were also going to change the fuel filter and Seafoam out the tank and throttle bodies. Your's is really a TL-S 1000, correct?



its a tlr1000....

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/548827699.html


this is the bike...
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its a tlr1000....

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/548827699.html


this is the bike...
Wow looks like the Busa well an Super Ugly Version on the Busa Nice Bike
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its a tlr1000....

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/548827699.html


this is the bike...
Nah, not the one, but from what I understand the issues I mentioned before are across the board. Good luck, you might want to try http://www.tlplanet.com
these fools are the go-to guys for your bike.
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