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Old 01-31-2008, 02:06 PM   #1
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Track nOOb questions - comments please

Hi. I am new to the track day thing and have a few questions I hope you all could share insight over.

I street ride an Aprilia Tuono. For those not familiar, it is essentially a naked version of the RSVR Mille, a 1000cc VTwin of about 140 bhp. Handles great on the street and in the right hands is a great track bike, but it is a big bike. It is also waaaay torquey and not to mention, freaking expensive.

I want to try some track days. I am thinking about buying a throw down bike, like an older Gixxer or SV650 or some other middleweight. I am thinking that those bikes might be more forgiving on the track for a nOOb.

What do you guys think? I notice that a decent middleweight track machine can be had for $2500-$3000 and that values maintain pretty well as they age. Instead of risking wadding up the Aprilia, I think it might be good to just get a cheap bike to cut my teeth on, because I think the Aprilia is going to be just power overkill for me early on.

Also, the Aprilia is extremely torquey. That might be a challenge for a track nOOb.

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Old 01-31-2008, 02:09 PM   #2
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yeah .... you should talk to PoPoRiderRR ... I think he can give you some words of wisdom on this matter.
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Racer X's bike would be a good track bike. You may want to upgrade the rear shock and mount up a damper. Stock rear SV shocks coming from your aprilla will not be up to par IMO and a nice golden upgrade will do wonders.

I did my first TD on a 1st gen FZ1 just to go check it out. After that I went ahead and purchased a more track "focused" bike. GSXR 750 then a SV.
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SV650 is the ultimate 1st track bike.
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sv650.....you learn to use corner speed versus using your power as a crutch

parts are abundant, and can be found cheap. if you can afford a track dedicated bike, by all means, do it. if you cannot, take the aprilia, and make sure you have full coverage JUST IN CASE.
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parts are abundant, and can be found cheap. if you can afford a track dedicated bike, by all means, do it. if you cannot, take the aprilia, and make sure you have full coverage JUST IN CASE.
Does full covereage cover track riding? I'm going to have to go talk to my agent I think.

I thought poporider had full coverage?
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I rode an 04 Factory, I know where you are coming from. I wasn't a track noob really but I still had concerns riding that bike on the track. I was too worried about wrecking the bike and couldn't relax. I picked up an 02 gsxr 600 track bike and was way more comfortable. I'm not saying the gsxr is a better track bike than the RSVR Factory, not at all. I'm saying I was too concerned with wrecking my pride and joy to relax and focus on riding.
Now I ride my SXV550 and love every second of it.

If you feel the way I think you do, the way I did, do not bring your tuono out. If you are apprehensive now it will most likely not go away and your track experience will suffer.

If you have the money for a spare bike then I encourage you to pick up an 01-03 gsxr 600 track bike or better yet a 1st gen. SV650S. You can easily pick one up for three grand. Almost as easily as you can rack up three grand of damage to your tuono.

Plus, you can always take the tuono out once you get some track time under your belt. If you end up liking it better, you can sell the track bike for 90% of what you bought it for.

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Does full covereage cover track riding? I'm going to have to go talk to my agent I think.

I thought poporider had full coverage?
poporider did NOT have FULL coverage on the bike....from what i read.

as long as it's not a "competition (race)".....your insurance should cover it. technically, going to a trackday is considered a "riding school".
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Thanks guys

I appreciate all the comments. I had assumed that insurance would not cover the Ape since it was a track day and stuff.

Anyhow, I called up Geico. It turns out that the thing is covered, so long as it is not a sanctioned race. They showed me in writing in my policy documents.

I appreciate the comments about the pride and joy thing, but that is really not my primary worry. I do not mind having my bike a bit scruffy. You ought to see my Beemer. It has a sort of "Jeepness" to it I really dig. So a scratch here or there is not my biggest worry. Kinda like getting a big heinous scar when you are a kid. Kinda cool in an odd sort of way.

What was worrying me is the sheer financial exposure of aggressively riding a quite expensive bike with no insurance. I just did not want it to be obliterated because it is paid off and I cannot replace it.

So, I am going to just take the thing down to the track and get comfy on her. After I learned about the insurance, it was my wife who asked the deciding question...

"Do you play the Stradivarius, or do you put it in a case and look at it?"

I say play the effin' thing.

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But if...

But if I had a few extra grand lying around, I would LOVE to have an SV. Had I not been hooked up with such a good deal by the guys of AF1 Racing on the Aprilia, I would probably own one already, as it was my target bike before I learned that I could actually afford the Ape.
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You might recognize the background in my avatar, it's the garage right outside the showroom.

Your wife is a smart lady.

The tuono i saw crash at msrh, i was right behind him, had WAY LESS damage to it than expected. Get your frame, fork, and swingarm sliders and have at it.
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poporider did NOT have FULL coverage on the bike....from what i read.

as long as it's not a "competition (race)".....your insurance should cover it. technically, going to a trackday is considered a "riding school".
Ok then, I must of misread the information. I thought all bikes that were 'financed' had to have full coverage. I have full coverage but just to be sure I'm going to contact my agent about the track.
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Ok then, I must of misread the information. I thought all bikes that were 'financed' had to have full coverage. I have full coverage but just to be sure I'm going to contact my agent about the track.
nope....depends on the lender. if you finance through suzuki i believe.....they don't require full coverage.
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