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Old 01-29-2008, 05:06 PM   #41
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damm the truth!!! damit it to !!!!!
yeah, well some people are sensitive like that
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:06 PM   #42
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:07 PM   #43
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:13 PM   #44
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When on the track I dont use the rear brake at all.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:17 PM   #45
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so what percentage do you think you use, ft vs rear?
Is this a trick question? I don't have any telemetry on the bike.

If I had to field a complete guess, I'd say usually 5-10% rear brake if that.

I use enough rear brake that it's noticeable when I take my foot off the peg/brake preparing to stop and have to grab more front brake to compensate.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:22 PM   #46
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Is this a trick question? I don't have any telemetry on the bike.

If I had to field a complete guess, I'd say usually 5-10% rear brake if that.

I use enough rear brake that it's noticeable when I take my foot off the peg/brake preparing to stop and have to grab more front brake to compensate.
good answer, personnaly i recommend leading w/ ft brake, cuz it gently gets the bike in a nose down attitude.
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Old 01-29-2008, 05:48 PM   #47
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okay, so who uses the rear brake and when do you use it?

im just curious as to when its supposed to be used on the track,, i havent ever been to the track yet, so i would like to get some more input on rear brake usage.

as for street use, the only time i use my rear brake it to slow down midturn, where as i do not want to apply so much braking pressure to just the front tire when the bike is leaned over, so i use both brakes whilst through a turn.

so when do u guys use it? and why do u use it..(i need to know so i can understand) =P
Here's when you should use your rear brake on the track (@ your level)

When you run a turn wide and go straight in the grass ( at that point ): Don't GRAB your front brake, or your in for a nice slide. Just use your rear brake progressively and gently as needed, try to steer to reduce the speed aswell. If you must then slightly do taps to the front brake aswell.

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Old 01-29-2008, 07:41 PM   #49
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i use it too much at times, try not to get into a habbit of pressing hard on it, you may not feel it slowing the bike down to much but it does at the slightest touch while in use witht the front
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:42 PM   #50
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I hardly ever use the rear on the track. Maybe just a little before a few corners every blue moon. A 600 on the track needs to carry as much speed as possible through the turns. Some of the fastest guys do a "sling-shot" out of turns using the RB but only in certain corners. ^^^^ Use it like BlackWidow says until your times are at slow expert level pace.

Street, I constantly use it. I make a habit out playing with the RB to learn more control.
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:52 PM   #51
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I have seldome used it to barely, barely scrubb off a little bit of speed while in a turn I felt I entered a little too fast. But all I have riden is the street.
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i ride an over 600 pounds cruiser street only
i use rear for light breaks
for hard breaks 60-70 front
for an emergency stop 80-90 front
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:31 PM   #53
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Do sportbikes still have rear brakes? My last two bikes have been capable of some fine stoppies in an emergency. Never on purpose. Can't imagine what rear brakes would be good for. Engine slows the rear. Front brakes slow or stop the bike.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:40 PM   #55
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18K on my bike and have never replaced the rear pads or even close to replacing them.
, i do good to get 500 miles outa rear brake pads
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at msrh CW i only use the back brake in the bus stop area other than that area, i just use the front and ALOT of downshifting. (coming into diamonds edge going from 6th down to 2nd, coming into the bus stop (down the launch) 5th to 2nd, end of the shorter back stretch 6th to 4th, end of the front straight 4th to 2nd. something like that. and i just roll off the throttle some if i need to slow down mid turn, and if its to little to late, then so be it. down i go
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On a sportbike I use the rear brake pedal to hold a shop rag when I am changing the oil.

Occasionally I may use it to hold the bike when stopped on an incline.

I'd use it in the event of a total front brake failure.
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Old 01-30-2008, 12:18 AM   #57
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i use the back brake on the track especialy when braking late.
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Old 01-30-2008, 02:58 AM   #58
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The rear brake is used right up to the the highest level.
Skilled racers use it to initiate ďbacking it inĒ and to control wheel spin.

Rossi is a big advocate of the rear brake.
Itís well documented that Mick Doohan (5 x 500cc W/C) used a thumb operated rear brake to control wheel spin (rather than shut the throttle and drop out of the power band) and maintained throughout his career that a dab on the rear brake BEFORE the front as you hit your braking marker reduced the amount of frontal dive over the traditional method and so unsettled the bike less.

However for us mere mortals:
On the road I use the back brake alot, especially at low speeds and when filtering.
I use it on trackdays too as I feel it helps settle the bike and itís also a bit force of habit.
I know that the guys I trackday with particularly the quick ones use no rear brake at all and are horrified that I do.
The fear is, as echoed earlier, that when braking hard particularly on a road bike ( i.e. stock forks) the fork dive puts so much weight on the front that the rear goes light at best and lifts at worst which you then ask more of by applying the rear brake.
A quick rear wheel lock up or chatter on the way in can easily upset you and lead to an incident.

My advice FWIW would be try and not get into the habit of using the rear brake at the track/on a trackday at all.

just my 2 cents.
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Old 01-30-2008, 03:20 AM   #59
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