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Old 01-29-2008, 12:08 AM   #41
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I'm assuming at this point that it's just lack of experience or lack of trust of what may/may not be in the turn (road kill or other ).
this is what we call "better judgement" and its a good thing. you should be glad you have it, and i wouldnt go against it.
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Old 01-29-2008, 12:21 AM   #42
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try reading keith code's book "twist of the wrist".....and you'll understand riding much better.
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if u get a chance pick up "sport riding techniques" i think nick ien-something is the aurthor . really good read also .
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Total Control: High Performance Street Riding Techniques, by Lee Parks

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Coasting puts too much weight on the front, and throws the goemetry of the bike off. Just a little throttle will "set" the bike and make the suspension work the way it was designed.
^^And that would be one of the ppl that I mentioned before. ^^

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Double the yellow sign is a good rule of thumb, but I tend to late apex on the street so I can see what the corner is doing. In other words, wait until you can see where the turn is going, and what the road surface looks like, then turn hard and one time and get back to the gas.

Don't coast into turns, go in at a light throttle to settle the bike and then accellerate at first opportunity. Slow in-fast out is where it's at on the street, and leaves you a safety margin as well.
This pretty much describes what I do best, I wait until I can see the exit then I begin to increase speed (depending on the turn of course). But sometimes I feel that I've slowed down to much. From what I've been reading I think it's just something that's going to come from more experience and practice. I don't coast at all though, after I slow I usually begin to increase speed gradually as I am entering the turn.

The higher rpm's make my bike feel more stable through the turns as well. At first I wasn't comfortable with the RPM's being 8k+ because it just didn't feel right to me. But after a few runs it began to feel more natural and smooth for me.
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This pretty much describes what I do best, I wait until I can see the exit then I begin to increase speed (depending on the turn of course). But sometimes I feel that I've slowed down to much. From what I've been reading I think it's just something that's going to come from more experience and practice. I don't coast at all though, after I slow I usually begin to increase speed gradually as I am entering the turn.

The higher rpm's make my bike feel more stable through the turns as well. At first I wasn't comfortable with the RPM's being 8k+ because it just didn't feel right to me. But after a few runs it began to feel more natural and smooth for me.
That's it. Just comes with being patient and learning a little at a time. I'm finding this out more and more. Inexperienced guys with new bikes are going down all the time because they think they can just get out there and do it and that it looks so simple.
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This pretty much describes what I do best, I wait until I can see the exit then I begin to increase speed (depending on the turn of course). But sometimes I feel that I've slowed down to much. From what I've been reading I think it's just something that's going to come from more experience and practice. I don't coast at all though, after I slow I usually begin to increase speed gradually as I am entering the turn.


You do not have the luxury of holding your chosen line cornering on the street. Not every corner disturbance is visible on entry. Oil, sand, tar snakes, car backing out of the hidden drive, all these demand that you reserve some traction just in case. What if you need to swerve or brake? I'm always more impressed with a rider who demostrates this kind of discipline on the street than those who brag of doubling or tripling posted corner speeds. Sounds to me like you are developing a strong street strategy. Keep it up!

Now, if you want to have fun seeing what you and your bike can really do, track time is where it's at.
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Put a couple of pieces of electrical tape on your tach blocking off all numbers below 8K rpms. If you can't see the tach needle then you need to downshift.

I wish I could make the 3/8 noob day with you and Justin...unfortunately I'll be on a sailboat in Barbados...not trying to rub it in...I'm just sayin...
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Put a couple of pieces of electrical tape on your tach blocking off all numbers below 8K rpms. If you can't see the tach needle then you need to downshift.
On the street for a n00b????!!!!

Bad idea. However you may want to cover your speedometer with some tape at the track.
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I'm getting more use to hearing what the bike is doing and knowing what gear the bike is in. I need an Accumen big time though because sometimes I will forget what gear I'm in and it sure would be nice to glance down and know.
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i didnt even read this whole thread cause the first post made me want to NOT RIDE with you ever.

go to the track.
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i didnt even read this whole thread cause the first post made me want to NOT RIDE with you ever.

go to the track.
No offence man but you should read the thread instead of posting a useless comment. It was started in a total n00b way but turned out to be pretty decent.

He who listens sounds like less of a dumbarse
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Not every rider can or will go do a track day. It would be nice but ain't happenin. Brandon is wanting to go and so do I, but maybe someone that can't or never will will read this thread and get some good advice on just riding on the street.
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Not every rider can or will go do a track day. It would be nice but ain't happenin.
How you figure?
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No offence man but you should read the thread instead of posting a useless comment. It was started in a total n00b way but turned out to be pretty decent.

He who listens sounds like less of a dumbarse

+1 Ive actually ridden with Brandon and he is a VERY conservative rider. Hes one of the few people on here who are. Alot of people on here ride complete different than the "keep it on the track" talk that say on here.
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I've ridden with Brandon a few times also. He seems to know his ability and rides his own ride. I'd ride with him anytime.
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+1 Ive actually ridden with Brandon and he is a VERY conservative rider. Hes one of the few people on here who are. Alot of people on here ride complete different than the "keep it on the track" talk that say on here.
me too and +1...I would ride with Brandon any day of the week.
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is good that you want to learn but i bet that you will learn faster and safer at the track. Too many risks on the stret or forest. Be safe, lots of good input in this site.
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Not every rider can or will go do a track day. It would be nice but ain't happenin. Brandon is wanting to go and so do I, but maybe someone that can't or never will will read this thread and get some good advice on just riding on the street.
Good advise? LOL...tellin' guys to go at least double, even triple the posted speed into a blind curve on a public road?

Looks like dangerous advise to me....I'll pass on any group rides with ya'll too.
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Was not me that said to do double or triple the posted speed. I agree, that can be bad advise. I say take the corner at what you are comfortable with and go from there. And yes people have to remember that things can be unpredictable on the street like blind curves and dead dogs etc.
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