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Old 01-25-2008, 03:57 PM   #1
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I am new to this forum and I have a question for you guys. I recently bought a 2006 R6 and I am trying to get the title under my name.

The problem is the previous owner only has a Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin (MCO) because he took it out of the state of Texas. He is now back in Houston and that's where I bought it from him.

My question is, how would I go about obtaining a title with only a MCO?
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Old 01-25-2008, 04:01 PM   #2
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you can get a bonded title, go to the tax office and get the paperwork... fill it all out turn it in, and they will tell you what else needs to be done
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it took me 10 mins to read your post.
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Old 01-25-2008, 06:32 PM   #4
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dont want to sound like a hard head but is there another way?

cant the previous owner register the bike and get a title then transfer the name over?
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The BEST thing to do is to go to the Tax Assesor Collectors office and ask them. They are always very helpful to me in these matters.
They KNOW what to do or can find out.
Then you have the real info and not a bunch of stuff some people told you.
They deal with this kinda thing everyday and you are gonna have to go see them anyway.
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cant the previous owner register the bike and get a title then transfer the name over?
yes but i bet dollars to donuts he wont want to.

the tax office (which is the registration office) will expect sales tax to be paid on the vehicle. since it is an mco that means it has never been registered, which in turn means no one has paid the sales tax on it.

the tax office is going to expect, i believe, 6.25% of the original msrp to be paid to them as tax. (not what you paid, but 6.25% the ORIGINAL msrp.) before they will let anyone register it. im gonna guess and say its around $500 or more.

most likely the previous owner did not register it in order to avoid paying the tax. usually this is because they intend to use the bike for racing only, or maybe stunting or some other non-road use.

only other way to avoid paying that tax is if he registered it in another state, but in that case i dont believe he would still have an MCO.

you may have to threaten some legal action on the seller if he doesnt co-operate. it is technically against the law to sell a vehicle in texas without a title.
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the previous owner used it as a track bike. its stock with 581 miles.

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the previous owner used it as a track bike. its stock with 581 miles.

What a way to break it in.
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the previous owner used it as a track bike. its stock with 581 miles on the clock.
fixed.

there is no telling how many miles are on it. a common tactic for racers who avoid the tax, is as soon as they get it home (or get the first service done, so 581 would be right) they pull off all the plastics and replace them with track plastics, and pull off the stock speedo (clock) and replace it with just a tachometer.

abuse the bike to for a year, and when you cannot get contingincy on it or you are ready to sell it, they put the minty fresh plastics and clock back on. the bike will look near mint on the outside, and will appear consistant with the clock. in reality there could be alot more wear on everything under the plastics than meets the eye. i wouldnt be suprised if the stock exhaust has been "re-installed" as well, etc you get the idea.

you will want to inspect the bike wiring harness. check to see if it is all stock, with factory connectors. if you see things spliced or put together with auto-store type of connectors etc, than you know he may also have removed the turn signals, taillights, and put them back on later. may have also had knows what electronics installed on it at one point in time as well. wiring that been "rigged" may not hold up to time and weather as well as factory.

not saying all this is true, just that it could. im not saying you got a bad bike either, it could be just fine, i just want to let you know so you can see any potential problems before they become actual problems.

just get everything checked out. dont be suprised if your chain needs replaced after "1000 miles". you get the idea.

honestly i would take the bike to a reputable dealer for a check over. i would recomend patrick at motorcycles unlimited for this actually.
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If you have the paperwork all properly filled out it won't be much of an issue.
Is the MSO / MCO filled in with his name or is it blank?
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deal sounded fishy, 581 miles? and i doubt that most racers (ask on here) buy a new bike for the track , if they are that much of a pro to use a brand new bike for the track, i dont think they would sell it with only 581 miles on it let alone break it on the track , did you check the vin? get a dealer to look over it as mentioned above? i know a guy in laporte you can check with he can file for a lost title for a fee
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If he has the MSO / MCO it was never titled, SO you can't file for a lost one.

As far as it being unusal, not really.
There are a number of racers that do just that, buy a new bike and never title it, race it a year or 2 max and then flip it.

If you're running for MANUFACTURER contingency money you usually can only have a 1 year old or current year VIN bike to qualify.
It's very common.

The first step is to see if the MSO / MCO were ever filled out.
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I just looked and it's an '06 bike.
In that case it would fit the description, it's no longer eligible for Yamaha contingency payout.

Miles do sound a bit low though.
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If he has the MSO / MCO it was never titled, SO you can't file for a lost one.

As far as it being unusal, not really.
There are a number of racers that do just that, buy a new bike and never title it, race it a year or 2 max and then flip it.

If you're running for MANUFACTURER contingency money you usually can only have a 1 year old or current year VIN bike to qualify.
It's very common.

The first step is to see if the MSO / MCO were ever filled out.
so even a manufacturer contigency, they will give you a bike? if its sponsored from lets say yama, and a person get it from acme yamaha, how does the dealership give the bike to the next owner , if this is the case? or how does that work, just curious how you still dont have to worry about title and fees,because i thought if that was the case the dealership would still be the owner than?
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No, by MFR contigency I mean that Yamaha pays contigency if you buy and run a Yamaha, but it has to be either 1 year old or current to qualify. Not that they provide you with a bike.


A lot of new bike dealerships will sell the bike with just an MSO / MCO if it's being sold out of state because the buyer tells them he's going to title and register the bike in his home state.

It's when that doesn't happen, like in this case, that the problems occur.
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the MCO has been filled out with the previous owner's information.
I spoke to him several occasions and he seemed like a legit guy.
I called the dealership which he bought it from "Yamaha Motorsports" in Houston,
they confirmed that he did purchase that bike and was supppose to register it in his state. Of course, he did not reason being, he wanted to use it as a track bike.

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