MotoHouston.com MotoHouston.com
Register Members List Member Map Media Calendar Garage Forum Home Mark Forums Read

Go Back   MotoHouston.com > Technical > How To's and Q & A's
Forgot info?

Welcome to MotoHouston.com! You are currently viewing our forums as a guest which gives you limited access to the community. By joining our free community you will have access to great discounts from our sponsors, the ability to post topics, communicate privately with other members, respond to polls, upload content, free email, classifieds, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free, join our community!

Register Today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.


FREE MH Decals by MAIL!

Advertisement

Reply
Share This Thread: 
Subscribe to this Thread Thread Tools
Old 01-16-2008, 07:22 PM   #21
CaligoneTx
Forest Gnome Tour Guide
 
CaligoneTx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Valhalla
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 21,558

Experience: 10+ years

Bike(s):
Triumph 675r
Ducati 748
Hyosungs (250r + 650r)
Honda 900rr
Suzuki Busa1300r (+2 bikes)






Send a message via AIM to CaligoneTx Send a message via Yahoo to CaligoneTx
Tier is an awesome idea and I respect it;

But coming from California, I could see the prejudice behind it not making it to the US. There will be alot more younger riders running around cops for fear of being pulled over on their liter bikes. They would also desire them more for being a rebel and outlaw, whether the cops really cared or not. Then it will be a case of 'the man trying to keep them down.'

European and Eastern mentality is different in that in the West... So although Tier is probably the best learning one could go through on motorcycles(since experience is built not digested and chit out in some form) I'm afraid it won't be seen here in the states.

As for why they aren't sold often, numbers... price and the sticker on the side of the tank, to be sadly spoken...
__________________
triumphsig
CaligoneTx is offline   Reply With Quote
Similar Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Question for a CPA or tax guru AiJay Off Topic 12 03-03-2015 04:54 PM
Suspension guru needed mxrider14 Super Motards 7 09-07-2012 06:35 PM
Banner guru needed Knightrider Off Topic 5 06-29-2007 02:14 PM
250cc and below track bike info bigcomfy Taking it to the Track 8 01-03-2006 07:51 PM
Advertisement
Old 01-16-2008, 08:07 PM   #22
ninjathatcould
UHD BPOC 241
 
ninjathatcould's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 954

Experience: 2 years

Bike(s):
2006 EX250
(Totaled 08 XB12R)



Member Garage





Send a message via AIM to ninjathatcould
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorpio View Post
Lets not start the whole "my first bike was a 1000 and I'm fine" thread.
There are plenty of people who are'nt around anymore that can't comment on the reasons why they should have started on a smaller bike.
yes, please dont. lets stay on topic and discuss how the US doesnt demand bikes smaller than 500cc's.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caligonetx View Post
Tier is an awesome idea and I respect it;

But coming from California, I could see the prejudice behind it not making it to the US. There will be alot more younger riders running around cops for fear of being pulled over on their liter bikes. They would also desire them more for being a rebel and outlaw, whether the cops really cared or not. Then it will be a case of 'the man trying to keep them down.'

European and Eastern mentality is different in that in the West... So although Tier is probably the best learning one could go through on motorcycles(since experience is built not digested and chit out in some form) I'm afraid it won't be seen here in the states.

As for why they aren't sold often, numbers... price and the sticker on the side of the tank, to be sadly spoken...
so youre saying that a kid with an illegally purchased (b/c of age) liter bike would be more inclined to run? if so, i agree with that.

youre right about the different mentality. it's unfortunate that we think "bigger is automatically better", but i'm not sure thats something that will change in our time.

i think cali also has more respect for bikers, or at least more riders. it seems as though legislation in favor of bikers would signify the acknowledgment of rider safety and awareness, that of which i would like to see more of in texas.

Quote:
Originally Posted by ls_dm View Post
cbr is my first bike and i have had no trouble with it
that's far from the point, my friend.
__________________



ninjathatcould is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2008, 08:45 PM   #23
FlipSideUp
This Flip Rides Nekkid
 
FlipSideUp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston - Memorial
Feedback Rating: (13)
Posts: 4,605

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
'03 Honda 919 Hornet
'89 Yamaha FZR400 Trackbike
'83 Honda CB650SC Nighthawk
'07 Step-2 (ok, it's my daughter's)






Quote:
Originally Posted by RACER X View Post
^ distinct possibility, but more importantly is that the mindset OVER HERE has to change, most peeps (mostly new riders) think that 600's are fine starter bikes.
Yep. That's the problem.
FlipSideUp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2008, 09:17 PM   #24
Squanto84
Ruh Roh..
 
Squanto84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Pearland
Feedback Rating: (7)
Posts: 2,384

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+






Member Garage





I see most americans justifying the 600 also by saying something to the fact of "it gets way better gas mileage then my SUV."
__________________
Roadracing a dirtbike..? Now that's just stupid! -Dad
Squanto84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2008, 09:24 PM   #25
RACER X
what R you lookin' at?
 
RACER X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Richmond, Tx
Feedback Rating: (26)
Posts: 33,494

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 8

Bike(s):
'14 Honda GROM! 181cc of fury!!
'10 Aprilia Tuono Factory-SOLD
'08 Busa - sold
A few more bought
A few more sold






never heard that one

it's usually

if you control yourself you'll be alright
so-n-so made it, so can i
i don't want to have to relearn how to ride when "upgrading"
i don;t want to loose $ on a smaller bike

pretty much all lame excuses.
__________________
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
2014 GROM
181cc's BABY!
Trump/Zimmerman 2016
Make America Great Again!
RACER X is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2008, 09:28 PM   #26
infidel
drpickles
 
infidel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SL
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 2,059

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+











Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorpio View Post
Well they have tiered lisencing in Europe and some other country's which makes it impossible for beginners to start out on the bigger cc bikes, which creates the market for smaller cc bikes.
The US should impliment this same system IMO as many riders have shown to be incapable of making rational decisions when it comes to choosing their first bike.
thats all we need is more laws.
__________________
It's too bad Chlamydia has to be a venereal disease. It's such a pleasant-sounding word.
Chlamydia?
Chlamydia.
Chlamydia. I think I might name my daughter Chlamydia.
infidel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2008, 09:29 PM   #27
Ulric
Dirty Old
 
Ulric's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Spring
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 9,633

Experience: 10+ years

Bike(s):
05 FZ1









...i may be at a point where I have to see the FZ totaled out, or settle for less 100% repair. New bike, that means some limited options or hunting for a good deal on a used bike... with that in mind that kawi 250 is looking real good.
__________________
"new joke tomorrow..."
Ulric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2008, 12:30 AM   #28
ninjathatcould
UHD BPOC 241
 
ninjathatcould's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 954

Experience: 2 years

Bike(s):
2006 EX250
(Totaled 08 XB12R)



Member Garage





Send a message via AIM to ninjathatcould
wooo hoo +1 man, that little bike is awesome. only downer is carbs are frustrating at times.
__________________



ninjathatcould is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2008, 12:37 AM   #29
andre3k
I see dead people...
 
andre3k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Feedback Rating: (1)
Posts: 2,798












when gas hits $6 / gal then you'll see the smaller cc bikes in big demand.
andre3k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2008, 12:40 AM   #30
ninjathatcould
UHD BPOC 241
 
ninjathatcould's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 954

Experience: 2 years

Bike(s):
2006 EX250
(Totaled 08 XB12R)



Member Garage





Send a message via AIM to ninjathatcould
so... thats like 2010

__________________



ninjathatcould is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-17-2008, 10:46 AM   #31
Patrick
Motorcycles Unlimited
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Houston
Feedback Rating: (2)
Posts: 16,367

Experience: 10+ years
Trackdays: 10+

Bike(s):
'14 Speed Triple R, '82 CB900F, '13 Streetglide






The 2 biggest differences between here andf Europe are:
Europe has tired licensing, so people HAVE to start on smaller bikes and the commute / area in Europe is much shorter / smaller, so the "need" let alone the room to use a larger bike isn't there.
__________________
Call or PM for the BEST PRICES in Houston for PARTS and ACCESSORIES.
MAKE SURE TO MENTION YOU'RE ON MH TO GET THE BEST PRICE!

NEED GEAR? We have a great selection in stock but if we need to order it we GUARANTEE FIT!
Where Houston riders go to have their bikes worked on, done right the first time!


muad

1964 FM 1960 West
Houston, TX 77090
Hours: Tues.-Fri. 9:30-6:00 Sat. 9-5:30
www.motorcycles-unlimited.com
http://www.facebook.com/motorcyclesunlimited
e-mail: patrick@motorcycles-unlimited.com
Patrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2008, 02:35 AM   #32
50fool
AD
 
50fool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Humble, TX
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 113


Bike(s):
2003 636, 2004 crf50









I think another reason people like the SS bikes better is because a lot of people think they look a lot more appealing. I know I do.

I'm sorry I love the gs500, ninja 250 etc but a newer 600cc bike kills the lower cc bikes in the looks department. I think the 08 ninja is a good start though. Maybe it will be the catalyst for change.
50fool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-18-2008, 05:12 AM   #33
ninjathatcould
UHD BPOC 241
 
ninjathatcould's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Feedback Rating: (0)
Posts: 954

Experience: 2 years

Bike(s):
2006 EX250
(Totaled 08 XB12R)



Member Garage





Send a message via AIM to ninjathatcould
what up alex!

patrick, this is true. I was just thinking the other day how much I love to ride my bicycle but I have to drive somewhere to ride it! Everything here is soooo spread out compared to other US cities, let alone Europe.
__________________



ninjathatcould is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools

Advertisement


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:19 AM.


MotoHouston.com is not responsible for the content posted by users.
Privacy Policy