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Old 01-15-2008, 07:59 PM   #21
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Old 01-15-2008, 08:08 PM   #22
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Not a problem!!! Then,maybe once I learn I can teach you how to ride (just joking babe!)
yea we can do some riding alright...
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What type of gas mileage are we looking at? And what speeds?

I like the way it looks but its gonna feel awfully small...
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What type of gas mileage are we looking at? And what speeds?

I like the way it looks but its gonna feel awfully small...
55-75mpg on my 05. and im sure it won't go faster than 130.

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i went to the kawi tech update for 2008 last week (lucky me, it pays to be a pro kawi mechanic) it was boring as , but i did learn some juicy info, so it was worth it.

some tidbits:

08 ninja 250, the changes are ALOT more than just cosmetic. the engine is 70% redesigned. the changes favor more low and midrange peformance. top end is down a bit, so dont be suprised to see the top speed of the 08 drop to 100 or 110. (dont quote me on that, well have to wait till they come out to be sure) however, do expect it to accelerate better than before in exchange. they are also going to paper/epoxy friction plates in the clutch, as they are supposed to stick to the aluminum better. i swear every ninja 250 and 500 ive ridden felt like it needed a new clutch, even brand new outta the crate!!! so i was glad to see that. hopefully it will take care of that.

i cant remember the rest of the details, maybe i can bring home the tech update book, and list it all for yall. that was the main jist of it though. more acceleration, and low/mid power, less top end, better clutch, new look, and many revisions throughout.

the JUICYEST tidbit i heard is that the 250 (and all other kawi streetbikes for that matter, maybe other facotrys also) may be FI in 2009.

europe's environmental boards are doing away with carbs on streetbikes in 09. much like the us did for cars in what 1990 or sometime around then? kawi as well as other manufacturers often do not like to have different versions of the same bike in different countries. so kawi may slap FI onto the 09's, just to simplify production and well, why not?

if you ask me one of the main problems with the 250 is they need carb cleans so often. all carbs may clog if they sit, but i am guessing the 250's smaller displacement means it has really tiny idle jets, which clog easily. that my theory anyways. so it would be really awesome to give them FI. imo, they would be much more valuable. no need for carbs cleans, better running, even MORE acceleration (so maybe trade it to get some of that top speed back) and finally POWER COMMANDERS FOR THE 250!!! RAWRRRRrrrRRrRRRR!!!!1

only thing else i remember from the update is the zx-10 finally gets titanium valves...gee...welcome to like 2004...
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it is redesigned about 30# heavier

peak torque down from 18.1 to 16

compression down from 12.4 to 11.6

body work looks like it will have much less drag.

wheels 17 inch so you can get better rubber.
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:05 PM   #28
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08 ninja 250, the changes are ALOT more than just cosmetic. the engine is 70% redesigned. the changes favor more low and midrange peformance. top end is down a bit, so dont be suprised to see the top speed of the 08 drop to 100 or 110. (dont quote me on that, well have to wait till they come out to be sure)

i cant remember the rest of the details, maybe i can bring home the tech update book, and list it all for yall. that was the main jist of it though. more acceleration, and low/mid power, less top end, better clutch, new look, and many revisions throughout.

the JUICYEST tidbit i heard is that the 250 (and all other kawi streetbikes for that matter, maybe other facotrys also) may be FI in 2009.
Whats all this about the 250 going faster than around 110. I haven't been more than 105 on mine and that was going down hill. Ive been on some 250 forums and the most i saw was around 110. Although its nice to know that they will finally give it FI.
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FI FTW. My 250 clogged the pilot jets about once every 3 months. Especially when it was being trailered somewhere (for some odd reason, everytime I took it out of town on the trailer it would not run without wasting a little vacation time on a quick carb clean. PITA. FI FTW!!!!!

17 inch rubber will help a lot too.

And anyone who owns one knows a little torque is a very good thing.



250's aren't slow, but they aren't exactly fast....faster than a car...slower than a motorcycle.
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100mph on my 250 doesnt feel safe
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250's aren't slow, but they aren't exactly fast....faster than a car...slower than a motorcycle.
I feel my 250 just as fast as my Integra but who knows..
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FI FTW. My 250 clogged the pilot jets about once every 3 months. Especially when it was being trailered somewhere (for some odd reason, everytime I took it out of town on the trailer it would not run without wasting a little vacation time on a quick carb clean. PITA. FI FTW!!!!!

17 inch rubber will help a lot too.

And anyone who owns one knows a little torque is a very good thing.



250's aren't slow, but they aren't exactly fast....faster than a car...slower than a motorcycle.
Is there a how-to for cleaning the carbs posted anywhere? I'd really like to read up on it
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:46 AM   #34
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Man, I'm so tempted to get another 250 just to prove that i can smoke big bikes in the corners again.. I worked on, and tweaked my 250 so much, I made it do a GPS'ed speed of 127.5.
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Is there a how-to for cleaning the carbs posted anywhere? I'd really like to read up on it
I have not had to clean the carbs often I think if the shadman would quit siphoning gas from other peoples lawn mowers he would do better.

no what I have found it make sure you ride the thing at least 50 miles a week.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:22 PM   #39
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Have anyone purchase one yet? I been looking to purchase one after I take my MSF. So I been calling several places and gotten different prices but non of them has gotten their 250r 08 model yet. Their hoping in couple of more weeks they should be in.

Their is a waiting list for them and its $100 to get on that list.
Also their prices seems to be a high, the quotes I gotten were from $4,000 - $4,600 OTD.

With all those extra fees; Setup fee it $400 Doc Fee - $50, Document fee - $20, freight fee - $50. The bike itself has an MSRP of 3,500.
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only thing else i remember from the update is the zx-10 finally gets titanium valves...gee...welcome to like 2004...
the zx-10r has had Ti exhaust valves since 04 when it debuted.
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