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Old 01-11-2008, 02:39 PM   #1
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crime punishment : why arent there set punishments times

ive been thinking of this for a while and since im bored at work i thought id post it up.

why are there no set punishment times for the same crime, like there is for traffic tickets and other violations.

If some celeb speeds there is a set ticket fine (punishment) that they along with any other joe/jane has to pay

so why when it comes to more serious crimes do people get different sentences.

person A kills 2 people. get 15 yrs
person B kills 2 people. gets 40 yrs

im just wondering why there isnt a set in stone punishment with slight room for variations across the nation.

is there something im missing when i slept through my government classes all these years
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person A could be a female that killed her continuous abusive husband

person B could be a male that killed his continuous nagging wife
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so they get different times served because they couldnt get out the relationship ?
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i was just wondering why a system like this wasn't ever established.

i see all the time people get because person A gets 30 days and probation for a crime, while someone else got 5-10 , but i guess its not that big of an issue
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ya thats what i figured , but couldn't there at least be a minimum for crimes. that way there is no oh ya i killed 50 people but i have a bomb lawyer 5 yeras and probation ...
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i was just wondering why a system like this wasn't ever established.

i see all the time people get because person A gets 30 days and probation for a crime, while someone else got 5-10 , but i guess its not that big of an issue
Generally depends on severity and if it's judge or jury sentenced.
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In every criminal case there are various mitigating circumstances that are considered by the judge/jury.

But I agree, penalties should be more static.



My bond on my reckless driving charge was 3 grand. (Class B Misdemeanor)

The same week I read a news article on a guy in Ft. Worth who was pulled over in a traffic stop, shot at the cop through the driver window (missed) then led police on a high speed pursuit before wrecking into a parked car.

Several felonies later he got out on a $5K bond.

Doesn't seem right to me.
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+1, good point

Yeah it's due to the nature of our system. It is built on not being absolute, leaving room for circumstantial considerations. An absolute system would make it easy to come to judgments but such a system would be more detrimental than helpful.
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werd. courts are sexist like a . too bad there's no masculinists out there to get upset about it.
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most crimes you hear of have a mandatory minimum.
i thought that was mostly, if not only, drug crimes.
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actually, there are pre-set penalties. the judge gets to play with things pretty much at will. that is so fVcked up it makes me sick. when these guys get elected, they just do whatever they feel like. how many times hae you seen a first offender for something stupid get railed, and a 3 time rapist gets nothing. don't get me started on drug crimes, or crimes involving white collar fraud.
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why do we have thousands sitting on death row for years and years on end.. lets speed up the process! 6 months for appeals and then off with their head, saves money on needles and all that other they have.
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Yeah, that seems whack.

Also, i think California's "3 strikes and youre out" policy is a good idea. If someone is caght and charged with the exact same crime over and over, is he really learning his lesson from the punishment given? Obviosly not because he keeps doing it. Lock up thoes repeat offenders for good!!!
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why do we have thousands sitting on death row for years and years on end.. lets speed up the process! 6 months for appeals and then off with their head, saves money on needles and all that other they have.
YES YES YES

Its unreal how much tax $ is spent on keeping death row criminals alive each year.
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