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Old 01-05-2008, 09:56 AM   #1
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Valentino Rossi believes James Toseland has made a mistake in joining Tech-3 Yamaha for his rookie season and should instead have signed with a Honda team.The 27-year-old Briton will ride for the French satellite Yamaha squad this season alongside Colin Edwards, after turning his back on World Superbikes - a series in which he won two world titles in 2004 and last year.

He chose his new team after rejecting a Moto GP offer from the d'Antin Ducati team and a new contract from his Ten Kate WSBK outfit.

But Rossi, a five-time Moto GP world champion, who won his first three titles on a Honda before switching to bitter rivals Yamaha, thinks Toseland, who rode a Honda to World Superbike glory last season, should have stayed with the manufacturer.

"Maybe Toseland has made a small mistake," the Italian told Motorcycle News. "I imagine that for him it would be better to race with Honda."

Rossi said that he does not believe Toseland has the talent of the other rookies; Jorge Lorenzo, Andrea Dovizioso and Alex de Angelis.

But he still backed him to perform well on the Tech-3 machine.

"I think Lorenzo and Dovizioso are the most talented riders of the four," Rossi added. Maybe Dovizioso has a small advantage because the Honda is easier to ride than the Yamaha, but we have to see what the 2008 Honda is like."

"I'm happy he's [Toseland] racing for Yamaha and I'm sure the bike will be better and he will do well."

The season kicks off with the Qatar Grand Prix on March 10, which will be the first Moto GP race in it's 48-year history to take place at night.

Jamie O'Leary / Eurosport
Seems a strange thing to say......
Mind games perhaps, I doubt it, maybe a few years ago.
A nice way of saying the Yamaha is sh#t and JT just isn't good enough to get the best out of it ............. ??
A dig at WSB's ??
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Sounds like Rossi is giving a PC response to make it sound better than he really thinks things are. It doesn't sound too bad, I don't think he's slamming JT, just being Rossi and tellin' it like it is.

I agree with everything he said here, I think Toseland was not making a very good decision either, and should have stuck with Honda. I think Vermolen should have done the same thing. I think both of those guys should have waited for a Honda ride, even if it were a satellite team.
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Was there even a ride available from any of the honda teams in motogp?
I don't remember reading about any for JC or Vermulen.
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Was there even a ride available from any of the honda teams in motogp?
I don't remember reading about any for JC or Vermulen.
It was being touted here that JT would replace Melandri (Hannspree Honda link)
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I agree with everything he said here, I think Toseland was not making a very good decision either, and should have stuck with Honda. I think Vermolen should have done the same thing. I think both of those guys should have waited for a Honda ride, even if it were a satellite team
I read that both these riders were promised rides by Honda in MotoGP following WSB duty that never materialized. I believe both opted for what they felt was the best "available" option !!
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I read that both these riders were promised rides by Honda in MotoGP following WSB duty that never materialized. I believe both opted for what they felt was the best "available" option !!
Well, if that is indeed the case, then I would have done the same thing as them. Woulda been nice to see Toseland on one of the factory teams at least, but at least he's riding motogp and he probably won't have the same pressure as the factory riders. I wish him the best either way.
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Well, if that is indeed the case, then I would have done the same thing as them. Woulda been nice to see Toseland on one of the factory teams at least, but at least he's riding motogp and he probably won't have the same pressure as the factory riders. I wish him the best either way.
Me too, I nicer bloke you couldn't hope to meet.
Off post, I note you have an '08 duc 848, what do you think of her ??
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Off post, I note you have an '08 duc 848, what do you think of her ??
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I'd love to meet King James in person, I've heard the same things you're commenting about him.



Off the topic, but Grinchy, why do you have a pic of a nekked kid in your avatar?
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I'd love to meet King James in person, I've heard the same things you're commenting about him.



Off the topic, but Grinchy, why do you have a pic of a nekked kid in your avatar?
That's my 6yo daughter baking cookies...............
I just love the photo
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LOL,
just noticed her little sticking out the back side. haha, yeah, may wanna change that with all the wierdo's on the net.

Anyways,
I'm thinking about it here, and what are those pinheads over at Honda thinking letting a such a great rider such as Toseland slip over to Yamaha. Honda, IMO, needs to work on their public image as much as possible and Toseland would have been a great person to represent the Brand. I don't get those guys.
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just noticed her little sticking out the back side. haha, yeah, may wanna change that with all the wierdo's on the net.
I hear you,
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A few years back when JT was riding the Fila Ducati in WSB, he came to the last leg of the British MRO championship at Brands Hatch and did some demonstration laps.
That evening myself and 4 pals headed up the circuit bar/pub for the end of season party.
A few hours later and very much worse for wear a packed bar was told that we were to be entertained by a little piano playing…..
Boo boo we all went and out walks JT !!!
He was the nuts and got the place rockin’.
Posed for photos after as well.
My mate Plug who’s a big lump and looks like a convict dragged him over to us for a chat by his shirt sleeve and he took it all in such good spirit. Could easily have called over the bouncers.
Wouldn’t come for a kebab though lol. (English thing, get drunk go for a kebab with chilli sauce)
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Its well known that Honda provides a top bike to compete with. If Michelin comes this year with their A-game. The Repsol guys are going to be all over the podium. The Yamaha ride JT landed is probably the most competitive package offered to him at the time. JT knows Edwards well. Collin should be a great mentor giving lots of good advice to him. I too belive that Lorenzo and Dovizioso have more talent. The team owners know this thats why those guys were offered their spots. Jir Team Scot is investing in young talent and made a great pick with Dovizioso. The only place I see Toseland fitting in with Honda would be with Team Gresini. I believe he has more promise than those guys.
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I think it will be an interesting year to watch MotoGP and I think JT wanted in on the game. Nobody is ever getting any younger.
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Scorpio, I'd like to know your opinion about the 848 since have been crossing my mind purchasing one... Would you mind share it?
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I think it will be an interesting year to watch MotoGP and I think JT wanted in on the game. Nobody is ever getting any younger.
Only this week it was quoted in our press that Colin Edwards got to MotoGP and a decent ride two years too late by which time he wasn't hungry enough and too old.
Not sure I'd agree with that but the argument was that with two WSB championships under his belt and guaranteed financial security, he was never going to push hard enough and risk life and limb to be a MotoGP front runner !!

JT has two WSB championships. I guess we'll see how hungry he is for it
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I agree with everything he said here, I think Toseland was not making a very good decision either, and should have stuck with Honda. I think Vermolen should have done the same thing. I think both of those guys should have waited for a Honda ride, even if it were a satellite team.

The key diff b/t CV and JT is that CV is actually on a factory team.. JT is on a sat. team.. Plus Honda is always slow in making promises unless you're a Japanese.
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