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Old 09-29-2008, 11:04 AM   #241
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Thanks guys! Still searching for the problem. Voltage out of the stator is PLENTY at 102vAC but once it goes into the regulator/rectifier, its at 13.8v as long as either the headlight is not on or the fuel pump is not running. Almost like the reg/rect won't regulate the voltage up. I tried my old oem reg/rect and it was .4v less then the HD reg/rect.


I am just happy the numbers are getting a little closer to where the should be. I won't be happy until it breaks 400hp. I think another 2-3lbs of boost and it will do it under the right conditions. Just gotta get the freakin charging system working so I can ride it. I want to run it at the Tx Mile if I get it charging.
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Old 09-29-2008, 01:30 PM   #242
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Old 09-30-2008, 07:26 AM   #243
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there's only so much stuff you can add until its overloaded ..but sounds like you need to get a less draw fuel pump or mount a car alternator off the crank externally to power all your add-ons

Yeah true.....but right now all I have on here is the factory harness and the additional fuel pump relay/wiring. All the other aftermarket stuff is off the bike and I actually only have enough of the factory plugs on the bike hooked up to make it run. No headlights or tail lights and I get 13.6v, as soon as I hook up the headlight, it drops to 13.23v or so, then hook up the tail light and its 13.11v. This is still less current draw then a stock bike but the voltage is already in the . I did some tests last night and they all came out good. I even did the same tests on my 1000 at the same time to compare and they were pretty close....EXCEPT the voltage output. My 1000 puts out 14.43v at idle with 2 headlights as opposed to 1....
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Double check all of your grounds.
Check your wiring at the starter relay and the main fuse for corrosion.
Did you run the red and black wires from the r/r directly to the battery like I suggested?

If everything else looks good, swap the r/r from the GSXR and see if it goes higher.
If so, call the company you got the r/r from and see if they'll swap it out.
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Double check all of your grounds.
Check your wiring at the starter relay and the main fuse for corrosion.
Did you run the red and black wires from the r/r directly to the battery like I suggested?

If everything else looks good, swap the r/r from the GSXR and see if it goes higher.
If so, call the company you got the r/r from and see if they'll swap it out.
Thanks Patrick. I tried running thick gauge wire from the rec/reg to the battery back in May when I was trying to diagnose this and it had the exact same voltage as running the power through the starter relay. I have swapped in 3 different reg/recs and all had voltage in the 12.5-12.7v range. Putting those same 3 reg/rects on my 1000 gets me 14.2v+ at idle. I sent the bike to 3rd Coast Speed in Lake Charles to try to figure this out, they had it for 4 months and couldn't figure out anything and said its probably in the harness. So I picked up the bike, stripped it to just the bare essentials to get it to run, install a new(used but virgin) harness in the bike and I have the exact same voltages.

I am gonna try swapping the starter relay. I was told that sometimes, even if bypassing the relay, running from the reg/rect to the battery directly, you can still get voltage drain from the starter relay because power is constantly running to it. Last night I tried pulling the starter relay plug off of it while running to measure voltage but the bike dies without it so..... I am stumped on this one. Only thing that is making any sense to me at all is the fuel pump is just pulling too much power. Kinda gotta keep that on there though....
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is there any way you can convert it to a 24v system?you can then put regulators on the certain things that need them. not sure if it'd work but it's a crazy off the wall idea
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is there any way you can convert it to a 24v system?you can then put regulators on the certain things that need them. not sure if it'd work but it's a crazy off the wall idea
You can only use 24v on the starting system. It would fry EVERYTHING else. I don't need THAT much voltage LOL....... I just need another volt or two.
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You can only use 24v on the starting system. It would fry EVERYTHING else. I don't need THAT much voltage LOL....... I just need another volt or two.
what about using a car regulator... surely there is somthing else available since you are getting 102VAC
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I just realized that I took a lot of F'n pictures....LOL starting from the beginning to the end of this thread, there is atleast 30 pics.... That was back when I was all excited and happy about it.....Then it me off and I am still to this day....

And yes, still no charging. I will be knee deep in this this weekend, any good electricians, feel free to stop by.....Lunch and beer is waiting...
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how long have those tires been sitting, you may need some new ones before you blast off
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how long have those tires been sitting, you may need some new ones before you blast off
The front is new......well it was put on the wheel back in April or so.....like 3 miles on it. The rear was almost brand new when I melted it back in Jan. It might have 200 miles on it but lots of dyno time has kept the layers peeled off of it...LOL

Hopefully I will get all my little stuff in this and next week and maybe I can finish it up next saturday, get the tail and upper on it and take it for a spin. It needs a lot of tuning in the part throttle area and I am still playing with the voltage level but..... I am hoping to have it all completely finished, tuned, dialed in by December and back to riding it. I deciding I am not gonna take it to the Texas Mile....too much to do and not enough time. I am just gonna run the 1000.
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Is yours rusty? The pics just dont do it justice. The number of wires that are really there is crazy. I had no idea till I looked at the bike the other day. Alan is one of a detail guy. I would never have the patience to deal with all of that.
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That thing looks more complicated that the space shuttle!

Glad to see it's almost back on the road.


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Did you add one of these in there??????

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Glad to see it's almost back on the road.


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Did you add one of these in there??????

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Actually, thats one of the last parts I am waiting on.....its hard to get parts from the future. The continual time warp thing really screws up shipping...
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The flux capacitor is always to blame, check there first.
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shame that my Bike will still be faster
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Flashing leds and bent plastic tubing coming out of the fender would be hilarious.... lol
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