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Old 12-29-2007, 08:30 PM   #1
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Fear not, this is not a flame thread against those in uniform, and I hope it stays that way. Out in Bryan, I parallel parked my motorcycle on a 2 way street the only way I know how... perpendicular to the curb with the backtire up against it. I wasn't the only bike parked this way, there was a cruiser a few vehicles down the same way. But alas, upon return I found a parking ticket stating I was parked facing traffic. As I recall from the DPS exam, the proper way to parallel park a bike is the way I had done it, so I'm a little confused as to what was illegal. Anyway, when I saw the prosecutor I explained the situation and he said he could decrease the amount of the fine. So.. I asked for a jury trial. So my question is, what is your take on this? I intend to do the following:

1) Take a picture recreation of how the motorcycle was parked
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2) Present the DPS handbook that we all got to study for our license

However, I'm a little worried that if the officer just didn't know the law, instead of looking like an idiot he/she may state that I was parked parallel to the curb in the opposite direction. That's the only thing I can see that would do me in. I'm smarter than to expect winning a disagreement on the state of facts with a cop.

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Old 12-29-2007, 08:42 PM   #2
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i agree with the pic taking for evidence, prolly won't work but it's worth fighting in my opinion.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:47 PM   #3
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I teach some motorcycle classes and I tell my students if they can to park with the rear wheel to the curb, but if you do be aware that it is illegal in many places. The msf books say to do it that way also. Another thing stated in the states book is ride with your high beam on in the day time. This is also illegal.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:52 PM   #4
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I used to do IT for some law firms and a cop pulled me over for 80 in a 65 while I was doing 55 being passed like I was standing still by a suburban. So I told the senior partner this. His statement was that it would really be smart to go and tell the judge the cop was a lying sack of s. I took that as sarcasm. The courts are not about justice they are about keeping order.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:59 PM   #5
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I would do EXACTLY what you already stated you would do... Take a pic of the position of your bike and take the DPS exam book... I cant say you will win but I think it will help you Greatly...
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if the cop is a non rider and never read the book, and parallel is allowed then you were not parallel parked if your rear tire was to the curb and your bike was perpendicular to the curb.

how are you calling perpendicular parking parallel parking.

The cop and court may simply see it as that. You were not parallel parked.
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:09 PM   #7
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Fight it but next time do a 45 degree w/ rear tire 2 the curb. your covered either way. IMHO jim
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:32 PM   #8
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you're a better man then me.... if i have to i pull my bike right up on the sidewalk and leave it there
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Fear not, this is not a flame thread against those in uniform, and I hope it stays that way. Out in Bryan, I parallel parked my motorcycle on a 2 way street the only way I know how... perpendicular to the curb with the backtire up against it. I wasn't the only bike parked this way, there was a cruiser a few vehicles down the same way. But alas, upon return I found a parking ticket stating I was parked facing traffic. As I recall from the DPS exam, the proper way to parallel park a bike is the way I had done it, so I'm a little confused as to what was illegal. Anyway, when I saw the prosecutor I explained the situation and he said he could decrease the amount of the fine. So.. I asked for a jury trial. So my question is, what is your take on this? I intend to do the following:

1) Take a picture recreation of how the motorcycle was parked
and
2) Present the DPS handbook that we all got to study for our license

However, I'm a little worried that if the officer just didn't know the law, instead of looking like an idiot he/she may state that I was parked parallel to the curb in the opposite direction. That's the only thing I can see that would do me in. I'm smarter than to expect winning a disagreement on the state of facts with a cop.

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Take POPOrider to court with you

(make sure he has his badge w/him )

tell the judge he told you it was ok to park it just like you did ( point at ariel poporider )

then say what's the problem? they will be laughing so hard at poporider they will have to dismiss it ......:k eke:

P.S. I'm not a lawyer but i do pretend to be sometimes
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:38 PM   #10
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one step better... send an email to Cliff Burdette. You can find his email addy on the dps site under the motorcycle stuff.

Could ask the officer, if with your bike parked and the steering lock, precisely HOW do you park it without part of it pointing towards traffic. :-)
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but no matter what it is still gonna be your word against his and who ususally wins that one?
it is always advantageous (sp) to go to court if u can and it usually is cheaper. I would just take a pic, tell the judge that this is how u always park and maybe the cop will agree that is the way u were parked and judge throws it out. better dress right and be polite. and good luck
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one step better... send an email to Cliff Burdette. You can find his email addy on the dps site under the motorcycle stuff.

Could ask the officer, if with your bike parked and the steering lock, precisely HOW do you park it without part of it pointing towards traffic. :-)
isn't Cliff in Maine now??
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Old 12-29-2007, 10:26 PM   #13
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I always parked 45* facing the direction of traffic with my back wheel at the curb. I've never heard that it was illegal. Guess you learn something new every day...

Just to clarify though, you weren't parked where your bike would go against traffic if you pulled out, right? You were parked so that if you pulled away, you would be going the right direction, right?

I still think 45* facing the correct direction with the nearest lane of traffic is the way to go, and I would say big +1 to the idea of taking pictures of a "correctly" parked bike with the DPS manual too.
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Old 12-30-2007, 12:31 AM   #14
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isn't Cliff in Maine now??
ill hafta chcek, last i lookd they still had him listed, but its been a couple months. But same concept, contact who-ever took his place.
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Another thing stated in the states book is ride with your high beam on in the day time. This is also illegal.
Please state your source for why you think this is illegal.
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Old 12-30-2007, 10:14 AM   #16
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Not illegal just can't do it within a certain distance. 500 for oncoming and 300 for approacing from the rear.
Can you please state the statute or code? I'm asking because we haven't found anything about DAYTIME use of high beams.

This issue comes up regularly during classes and we'd like to be sure we are giving out correct information.

DPS-MSU says there are no laws regarding high beams during the daytime.
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Old 12-30-2007, 10:23 AM   #17
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this is all i could find.


Texas Transportation Code 541.302
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(11) "Roadway" means the portion of a highway, other than the
berm or shoulder, that is improved, designed, or ordinarily used for
vehicular travel. If a highway includes at least two separate
roadways, the term applies to each roadway separately.


Texas Transportation Code 547.333
(c) A person who operates a vehicle on a roadway or shoulder
shall select a distribution of light or composite beam that is aimed
and emits light sufficient to reveal a person or vehicle at a safe
distance ahead of the vehicle, except that:

(1) an operator approaching an oncoming vehicle within 500
feet shall select:

(A) the lowermost distribution of light or composite beam,
regardless of road contour or condition of loading; or

(B) a distribution aimed so that no part of the
high-intensity portion of the lamp projects into the eyes of an
approaching vehicle operator; and

(2) an operator approaching a vehicle from the rear within
300 feet may not select the uppermost distribution of light.

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doesnt specify daytime vs. nighttime.
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Jury trial will likely go in your favor. I've served on a couple of traffic court juries and we always gave the benefit of the doubt to the driver, unless he was a jerk.
When I got my license the manual was carved on stone, but if it says to park like you said it does then that would be enough to make me go your way, unless the location was marked otherwise.
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Perfect. Thank you. Now I have something to send to them for their input.
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