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Old 09-01-2005, 09:56 AM   #21
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Re: pwned today at the pump.

my truck gets 30 to fill up and the bike gets 10-11 dollars. i spend about 100 or less a month on gas. varies on how much/far i drive/ride.
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Re: pwned today at the pump.

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$80 for the Navi. Is it me or does it seem this world is in total chaos!!! The war...the hurricanes... the economy.....and freakin George W Bush is on vacation!!!....or excuse me...had to cut his vacation short.
Dubia was out of office for a vacation of 5 weeks..cut it short for just two days......!!!!! and yes the world is going into total caos..!!!! So enjoy your way of life while you can...!!!!!!
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, yeah, cuz when W goes on vacation, you know he gets away to Cancun and sits on the beach and opens up a corona..........no worries in the world.
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, yeah, cuz when W goes on vacation, you know he gets away to Cancun and sits on the beach and opens up a corona..........no worries in the world.
I guess they just want more immediate action from him.. :dontknow:
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rumor has it they have opened up the resirve tanks to use for gas the ones that they use for the military
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change your fuel filters and plugs for better gas milage :biggthumpup:
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Quit buying urban assault vehicles that only get 12 miles to the gallon and all will be well. right:
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i had no idea mustang gt's eat gas so fast.
big V8's always do.


FYI, the oil companies arent to blam for oil prices nor is president bush. its OPEC who determines how much oil a barrel costs. you also cant just turn all thos barrels out of the national reserve into gas. oil makes alot of things that most didnt even know.

best way is to ration gasoline, trash, electricty, etc. for a while and watch the gas prices drop to around $1.
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i had no idea mustang gt's eat gas so fast.
big V8's always do.


FYI, the oil companies arent to blam for oil prices nor is president bush. its OPEC who determines how much oil a barrel costs. you also cant just turn all thos barrels out of the national reserve into gas. oil makes alot of things that most didnt even know.

best way is to ration gasoline, trash, electricty, etc. for a while and watch the gas prices drop to around $1.
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Re: pwned today at the pump.

This is not stange. *Gas to us is still much cheaper than europe and asia. *They deal with it, by drive high efficiency gas motors (low displacement), turbo diesals, and LPG powered cars. *, I have never even seen an LPG car here in the states. *We might be paying more than we normally do, but that doesnt mean its expensive. *Hopefully, for the sake of the environment and the world we will eventually have to change our ways. *I heard an old statistic like we make up 1/5 of the worlds population, but consume like 60% of its natural resourses. *We live extremly glutonous lives becuase thats what we are used to. *We need to change, there is no reason for us not to. *












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Please show me EVIDENCE that G-Dubya has any control over the price of oil.

You guys have China and India to thank for finally making it to the 21st century and dumping their bicycles for cars. China is willing to pay top dollar for oil.
listen big bro, i m from India.. and we pay 8 times the price that u pay here..8 times do u hear..thats is like paying 20 dollars a gallon here... and we are not "willing" to pay that..we have to..because we dont go wage war aginst somebody if they dont sell oil cheap to our companies!!!!!
and dont thank India for making it to 21st century.. thank * that your country made it.. now leave it here and dont get me started on why... i dont like doing the "my dad stronger than yours" !!!!
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Please show me EVIDENCE that G-Dubya has any control over the price of oil.

You guys have China and India to thank for finally making it to the 21st century and dumping their bicycles for cars. China is willing to pay top dollar for oil.
listen big bro, i m from India.. and we pay 8 times the price that u pay here..8 times do u hear..thats is like paying 20 dollars a gallon here... and we are not "willing" to pay that..we have to..because we dont go wage war aginst somebody if they dont sell oil cheap to our companies!!!!!
and dont thank India for making it to 21st century.. thank * that your country made it.. now leave it here and dont get me started on why... i dont like doing the "my dad stronger than yours" !!!!
like i said in my post and to back you up, OPEC is the only one responsible for the price of oil. NOT BUSH OR OTHER COUNTRIES LIKE in THE MIDDLE EAST OR ASIA.
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Re: pwned today at the pump.

Arturo, its not that simple trust me. yes OPEC does control around 70% of world's oil production ,i guess, but there are tons other factors at play too. Russia, USA and South American countries play an imp role. There is tons of arm twisting involved. Please dont mind this, but USA has to twist Saudi Arabia and other OPEC guyz' arm quite a bit, simply becuase its the biggest consumer!!!!
I dunno if you will believe it, but US now even makes Russia step up production if OPEC starts acting too much. And Saudi Arabi is the biggest OPEC producer, and the king and princes there are the biggest owners, and their companies, (and their politics) had huge american interests. i hv studied petroleum industry as part of my studies..and trust me, what normal people like you and me get to see is only the tip of iceberg.

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and my apologies if somebody dint like my remark about USA in the last post, it was not meant to look like an insult or nething..i just wanted to show TxVrod that it hurts bad when somebody says something stupid about your country.
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listen big bro, i m from India.. and we pay 8 times the price that u pay here..8 times do u hear..thats is like paying 20 dollars a gallon here... and we are not "willing" to pay that..we have to..because we dont go wage war aginst somebody if they dont sell oil cheap to our companies!!!!!
and dont thank India for making it to 21st century.. thank * that your country made it.. now leave it here and dont get me started on why... i dont like doing the "my dad stronger than yours" !!!!
we weren't buying oil from IRAQ before the war.........

and he wasn't bashing india, but stating india and china are 2 HUGE factors as to why prices are up..........they are both hitting their industrial revolution as the US did back in the 40's........
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OPEC is reponsible for setting up prices for oil. i know there are many INFLUECES that may set the price. thats not what i was trying to get across.

summed up its just a supply and demand theory. the whole USA will not run out of oil. once a certain nation stops pumping oil to sell, the supply looks short. therefore the prices increase. everybody wants to make money and it just hurts the consumers pocketbook temporarily.

gas was cheaper 10yrs ago but there is inflation everywhere. there has to be to keep the economy leveled.
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and he wasn't bashing india
bashing, maybe no. offensive yes.
Arturo, Tbone and other guyz are also saying things and that to me is a much more educated and cultured way of saying things.
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This is not stange. *Gas to us is still much cheaper than europe and asia. *They deal with it, by drive high efficiency gas motors (low displacement), turbo diesals, and LPG powered cars. *, I have never even seen an LPG car here in the states. *We might be paying more than we normally do, but that doesnt mean its expensive. *Hopefully, for the sake of the environment and the world we will eventually have to change our ways. *I heard an old statistic like we make up 1/5 of the worlds population, but consume like 60% of its natural resourses. *We live extremly glutonous lives becuase thats what we are used to. *We need to change, there is no reason for us not to. *
well some people just dont change, and i feel that this wont change anything after all this is cleaned up and forgotten about. we learn to adapt but, we are not gonna have to adapt..



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bashing, maybe no. offensive yes.
Arturo, Tbone and other guyz are also saying things and that to me is a much more educated and cultured way of saying things.
sounds like you need to grow a thicker skin........i'm from Burma, ya know next to india......and they're still back in the 50's........and yes india is coming out wasyback when to current day standards.......is it 3rd world, NO.........is it equal to the US in quality of life. NO.
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sounds like you need to grow a thicker skin........i'm from Burma, ya know next to india......and they're still back in the 50's........and yes india is coming out wasyback when to current day standards.......is it 3rd world, NO.........is it equal to the US in quality of life. NO.
different people, different thinking. I find it equally offensive to say Burma is back in 50's. Each nation has a life trajectory with its ups and downs. Burma's trajectory is different from India's and India's is different from US's. But saying Burma is back in 50's or India is back in 1900s is offensive.
but if somebody says India's quality of life is lower than US, then yes, it is. and I dont find it offensive because it is a fact..stated without any intoning, or malaise. Even if somebody were to say that 26% of India lives below poverty line, I would not find that offensive. because its again a fact. BUt if somebody were to say that hey Kalkat, u guyz live in dark ages or some like that, then I will make sure that I give him/her an answer that they wont forget the rest of his/her life.

Anyway, arguments always have two sides..and never end.lets take it easy.
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