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Old 12-20-2007, 11:16 AM   #1
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Shooting accident kills man at Houston gun range

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A man was fatally shot during an accident at a west Houston gun range, police said.

The 45- to 50-year-old man died after he suffered a gunshot wound to the chest at American Shooting Centers in the 16500 block of Westheimer Parkway, Houston police said.

The incident happened about 6:40 p.m. Authorities say they believe the injuries were caused by a rifle.

No other details were immediately available Wednesday night.

Meanwhile, a police officer for the Port of Corpus Christi died in a similar shooting, police said.

James Saavedra, 40, was shot once in the chest on Wednesday while he and another officer were sighting in a rifle at the department's gun range, said Luther Kim, the port's police chief. Saavedra died at a hospital one hour later.

Saavedra was working with Officer Eric Giannamore when the shot was fired. Kim said he did not know which officer fired the shot or where the two men were standing in relation to one another.

Kim said the officers were on duty when the shooting occurred. Both were qualified range masters and experienced as firearms instructors, he said.

"Words cannot express the sorrow we all feel at his untimely passing," Kim said. "(Saavedra) was an exceptional and highly experienced police officer, but more importantly, a wonderful man."

The Corpus Christi Police Department was handling the investigation for the port police force, a nine-officer department with jurisdiction over the Nueces County port. Kim said Giannamore has been placed on administrative leave with pay.

Saavedra is survived by his wife, two daughters and a son.
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Do they not know how to use a gun or what? You would think that they would have more training then most I get so upset @ so called accidental shooting I am sorry but IMO there are no accidental shooting
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Wow, I was just there last Sunday. That's tragic, man.
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Do they not know how to use a gun or what? You would think that they would have more training then most I get so upset @ so called accidental shooting I am sorry but IMO there are no accidental shooting
NO SHIAT!

I was just there last month! ... I live like 2 minuites from there.
That place is always very strict on safety procedure too!!!
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bound to happen, you guys have been to the gun ranges and see all the bullet holes in the deviders, floor and celing, WTF are these people doing to shoot everywhere but downrange.
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bound to happen, you guys have been to the gun ranges and see all the bullet holes in the deviders, floor and celing, WTF are these people doing to shoot everywhere but downrange.
I Dunno :dontknow: Finger only goes on trigger when your ready to shoot other than that keep your finger off the Trigger DUH! that is not hard
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I Dunno :dontknow: Finger only goes on trigger when your ready to shoot other than that keep your finger off the Trigger DUH! that is not hard
it's not the the finger on the trigger but the slippage of the firing pin. One time I teach a girl how to shoot and she shot off a round because her finger slip off the firing pin.
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I have a buddy of mine that is an instructor. He got a gun in at the shop as a trade in, he went to test fire it in the range, and the gun had been worked over so much, that the gun fired without him pulling the trigger. If i'm not mistaken, it was a semi pistol and it fired more than one shot too. Pretty much it turned into an automatic and you didn't have to have your finger on the trigger. I dont know a lot about guns, but thats the story I got.
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Almost impossible for that to happen.Just dont point at what you dont wanna shoot
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NO SHIAT!

I was just there last month! ... I live like 2 minuites from there.
That place is always very strict on safety procedure too!!!
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Almost impossible for that to happen.Just dont point at what you dont wanna shoot
Have you ever fired a gun with a 1# trigger pull? Doesn't take much movement. If a rookie (like me) tried to work the trigger on that thing, i could imagine it could be brought to less. He ended up shooting his hand in that incident. And he isn't the one that told me the story, someone else that was there did.
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[quote=mathews;912312]Almost impossible for that to happen.Just dont point at what you dont wanna shoot[/quote]
A must know information when handling a loaded gun.
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Have you ever fired a gun with a 1# trigger pull? Doesn't take much movement. If a rookie (like me) tried to work the trigger on that thing, i could imagine it could be brought to less. He ended up shooting his hand in that incident. And he isn't the one that told me the story, someone else that was there did.

It can happen easily in a semi auto, and not just with a light pull. I've seen some 1911 sears filed down so much it was more like a prayer that they might catch once in a while.

A real dirty gun can stick the firing pin and go into a slam fire condition also.
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if it still has packing grease if can fire when the bolt is dropped, or multi-tap when the trigger is pulled. but keeping it pointed down is KEY.
I've seen kids waving loaded guns several times, I don't go back.
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:49 PM   #17
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ohman sux. foul play?
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My #1 student worked there pulling clays, and he said it was a joke. I asked an RM once about kids holding guns who were still riding on training wheels and he said there was nothing he could do. I disagree, that's your job. That place is NOT safe with people pointing guns up and down a hot line. , I was, and left.
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More details. Supposedly the guy at ASC shot himself.

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Late Wednesday, a man accidentally shot and killed himself at American Shooting Centers in far west Houston. That same day, a police officer in Corpus Christi died also of a gunshot wound suffered at his department's shooting range.

Details of the incident in Corpus Christi weren't immediately available, but I did find out a few things about the tragedy at ASC.

The man arrived late in the afternoon, apparently hoping to sight in his rifle just before the range closed. While he was removing the weapon from the back of his SUV, the gun discharged, and the bullet struck him in the chest.

While it's impossible to determine exactly how this happened, someone who was at the scene said that it appeared the trigger had bumped a latch on the man's hard-plastic gun case as the rifle was being pulled from the car.

We'll never know why a live round was in the rifle, why the gun's safety apparently wasn't engaged, or why the rifle wasn't pointed in a safe direction. What we do know is that a momentary lapse in judgment resulted in a sorrowful and irreversible event.

Heartfelt sympathies are extended to the man's family, friends and hunting buddies. His age is not important except to note that he was far too young to be lost.

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