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Old 12-19-2007, 05:13 PM   #21
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"all i'm saying here is it is ok to start with a 600cc "

and all my points have to "expose" how little you really do know about riding and all that it entails. and how new riders shouldn't be giving out bad advice based on their experience or lack of it.

glad you've made it so far. but odds are ? newbs on 600SS bikes are gonna crash or not ?
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Old 12-19-2007, 05:43 PM   #22
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:19 PM   #23
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Old 12-19-2007, 06:33 PM   #24
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for what you do (commuting) its not bad to start on a 600 but if you're afraid of that throttle, its not such a good idea after all to start on a 600. If you know how to countersteer, swerve, brake in emergencies, and a few other important basics, then msf is something you don't really need. However, its never too late to get back into MSF...you'll learn things you never knew or simply forgot.

People kept telling me to keep the 250 for at least 1 year that seemed too long as i felt ready to step up. I decided to sell it within 6 months of daily driving and within a few weeks i was fully adjusted to the 636. In the end do whats wise for yourself. If all of humanity learned at the same pace, I can merit telling you exactly what you SHOULD do. But alas, some of us learn faster and therefore earn experience faster than the "norm".
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Old 12-19-2007, 08:17 PM   #25
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for what you do (commuting) its not bad to start on a 600 but if you're afraid of that throttle, its not such a good idea after all to start on a 600. If you know how to countersteer, swerve, brake in emergencies, and a few other important basics, then msf is something you don't really need. However, its never too late to get back into MSF...you'll learn things you never knew or simply forgot.

People kept telling me to keep the 250 for at least 1 year that seemed too long as i felt ready to step up. I decided to sell it within 6 months of daily driving and within a few weeks i was fully adjusted to the 636. In the end do whats wise for yourself. If all of humanity learned at the same pace, I can merit telling you exactly what you SHOULD do. But alas, some of us learn faster and therefore earn experience faster than the "norm".
thank you. some close minded people don't get this concept though. but yeah i want to get a 600ss soon probably will be a gixxer 600
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ok the most IMPORTANT thing about riding a motorcycle other than wearing your gear is to KEEP REALLLLY GOOD TIRES ON YOUR BIKE. other than that just be really SMOOTH on the gas off the gas on the brakes and off the brakes
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thank you. some close minded people don't get this concept though. but yeah i want to get a 600ss soon probably will be a gixxer 600
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:57 PM   #29
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wish i could change bikes like underwear must be nice. how did you like the 750 b/c i'm think of going to a gixxer 600 or 750 not sure just yet
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i took msf and was practicing on their 250, and my first bike is a gsxr 600. its all personal preference and whether or not your up to the challenge to be able to control a 600. PERSONALLY a 250 just wasnt enough for my tastes, but then again i am 280 pounds lol, 600 for me is just enough power to do the kind of riding i want to do, and i know my limits on my bike as well.
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Old 12-20-2007, 07:13 PM   #31
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i took msf and was practicing on their 250, and my first bike is a gsxr 600. its all personal preference and whether or not your up to the challenge to be able to control a 600. PERSONALLY a 250 just wasnt enough for my tastes, but then again i am 280 pounds lol, 600 for me is just enough power to do the kind of riding i want to do, and i know my limits on my bike as well.
i agree with you on that and yeah if you don't know your limits and let your ego take over i can see how people get themselfs into trouble
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id say if you think you are ready for the responsiblity of riding a bigger, faster bike then go for it!!! i certainly did, Knock wood, nothing has happened yet, plus msf did go a long way as far as preparing me for the road on a motorcycle, a looooooooooong way. lol I plan on taking the erc in a couple of months just to increase my stills and awarness for the road.
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yeah as soon as i get a chance to i would like to take the msf course as soon as i can get a couple days off from work which won't be till after the new year
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Started w/ an older ('99) 600 F4. I do so much researching into my decisions and decided trading out a 250 or 500 in a year would just be frustrating. (One thing I did find - I think a 500 GS(f) would make anyone a great 1st.) Good thing about the older bikes = much more forgiving when set up stock. I've learned a great deal, made (or had them made) some minor changes to gearing, front suspension,master cycleder..blah blah... and was able to "grow into" my bike safely. It really depends on the mindset and responsibility of the individual. I'm having a blast and can't wait to get a dedicated track bike next!
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i'm 6'5 and 230 pounds and started on a Ninja 500. After a year of riding, following my friends on 600s I decided to upgrade. I learned a lot from having a smaller bike first. I know plenty of people who started on 600s. Lots of them crashed or scared themselves and don't ride anymore. The thing is if you really love to ride, it will not matter what you start on. If you're worried everybody goings to make fun of you for riding a 250/500, and then buy a 600+. I don't think you should even be riding if it's just an "image" thing. Just my opinion though as I couldn't afford a 600+ till now...
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ill add this:

i started on a '86 VFR700. (it wasnt a great starter bike.)

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while ive gone the fastest on the FZR, and leaned the furthest on the 600, its honestly been the GS thats taught me the most about perfecting technique.

only now after years of riding am i really getting into leaning the rider more than the bike all the time. learning to finish all braking and make proper gearing changes before a turn, and accelerating through a turn instead of coasting through which can get you killed.

its one of the reasons i plan on keeping this GS forever. i love teaching friends how to ride if they want to learn and this is the perfect bike for it!
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yep.

didn't Kawi also make a 750 turbo around the same time?
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Old 02-12-2008, 10:59 PM   #40
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i knew i read that somewhere. good to hear that some confirmation that i wasn't pulling t from my
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