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Old 12-21-2007, 02:09 AM   #81
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I know Jody pretty good, and I can tell you he is one of the coolest guys in the pits. He just doesn't take to chit talking very well. I mean I can smack talk with him, but he KNOWS it is all in jest. Clayton may be kidding around just to stir up chit, I don't know.

Clayton, you have (1) trackday under your belt, dude you could learn so much more by just listening and watching. I saw you at MSRH and you did look good for your first time, but with that being said, you have a lot to learn still. I'm not saying I am the fastest out there, but I am by no means the slowest. Low 1:50's on a transponder? or was that what the person you were following was running? There is a difference.

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and the guy that was running 1:56's that i lapped (passed twice in one session and neither of us stopped)

combined tell me i'm in the low 1:50s. i'll have a transponder and a video man out there next time. ant i'll get the video guy to stopwatch that so there is no dispute.

i'll put money on my SUB 1:48 lap on my next trip to MSRH.
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Old 12-21-2007, 02:11 AM   #82
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: i'd put money on me spending more time on the track next year than 80% of the track going members on mh for 2008. i plan on making it out 3 or 4 times a month starting in march.
good to hear,
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good to hear,
don't forget to check your ego at the door.
and your wallet cause 3 to 4 trackdays a month is a whole lot of dosh. and remember the faster you getthe more exp this hobby is.
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and remember the faster you getthe more exp this hobby is.
thats no joke
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:39 AM   #86
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I did the 3-4 TD a month thing for a few months and it gets very very expensive. You get faster alot faster for sure but tires start wearing quicker, using alot more fuel, traveling to get to a track, hotels, etc.....
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and your wallet cause 3 to 4 trackdays a month is a whole lot of dosh. and remember the faster you getthe more exp this hobby is.
i know. thats why i gotta start in march. i'm starting a new job in jan.. nice little raise and more hours, and keeping it mon-fri.


and about checking my ego at the door....

:/: my ego normally gets checked in when i'm sliding across the pavement, concrete, asfault, grass, or whatever it is that i crash into.. :/:
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I did the 3-4 TD a month thing for a few months and it gets very very expensive. You get faster alot faster for sure but tires start wearing quicker, using alot more fuel, traveling to get to a track, hotels, etc.....
did i say track days? i meant days at the track...

2 or 3 member days and 1 track day / month is my goal.
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:/: my ego normally gets checked in when i'm sliding across the pavement, concrete, asfault, grass, or whatever it is that i crash into.. :/:
But when that's happening, isn't that a little too late???
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But when that's happening, isn't that a little too late???
naa.. i'm young and tough, i bounce back up and get back to it, just knowing my limits in that particular corner

these are some of my riding thoughts...

1. if you never crash, you never know your TRUE limits. (ie lowside, how low can you go? toe? foot peg? frame slider? elbow? clip on?... braking, i'ma pin it until i get to point x, ok i got that and made the corner, ima pin it until point xx, ok got that and made the corner, i'ma pin it until i get to point , awww . didnt make the corner.. now i know my limits..)

2. Win or crash trying. (even if i dont feel safe following someone, if its competitive, i'll keep following them, and even try to pass them, and try to hold that pace.. normally doesnt end well. watch some ricky carmicheal from when he raced 125's like 1999ish.. he is totally NOT in control of his bike, but he is hauling !)

3. Anything you (not you you, but you as in another human being) can do, i can do better.



so is it to late to check my ego after i crash? naaaa. i'm sure it would be better on my bike, but everyone is going to crash sometime, i do it more often than most because of #1 and #2.
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But when that's happening, isn't that a little too late???
Yeah, I think he missed the meaning of that comment.
We don't want to see you crash, much less take someone else out trying to prove that your the next track messiah.
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Yeah, I think he missed the meaning of that comment.
We don't want to see you crash, much less take someone else out trying to prove that your the next track messiah.
STFU Tom!!!! TD's are mad eot push as far as possible and if you crash and take someone out so flippin be it. They knew what to expect. Period the end.
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Sorry Clayton, gotta dish you on this point:

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1. if you never crash, you never know your TRUE limits. (ie lowside, how low can you go? toe? foot peg? frame slider? elbow? clip on?... braking, i'ma pin it until i get to point x, ok i got that and made the corner, ima pin it until point xx, ok got that and made the corner, i'ma pin it until i get to point , awww . didnt make the corner.. now i know my limits..)
With time, you learn to "listen" to your bike. What your bike, tires, body is telling you will let you know when you're reaching your limits. Sure, when you crash, you find some things out, but there are LOTS of really fast folks that don't crash.

The above is learned through experience, not because you're consistently throwing your on the ground

And BIG +1 to Scorpio!
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Yeah, I think he missed the meaning of that comment.
We don't want to see you crash, much less take someone else out trying to prove that your the next track messiah.
1. if you are on the outside of someone on a corner, you better trust them. if you dont trust me, dont be on the outside of me going through a corner. i always pass on the outside because i could careless if you lowside into me, i took the risk by passing you on the outside, therefor it would be my fault.

2. i'm have nothing to prove. everyone that KNOWS me. KNOWS what i'm capable of. the rest of you, :/: yall are just ignorant.


and before you jump my case about "ignorant" know the definition.

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1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.

so i'm not calling you a dumbass, as i was called many times in this thread, just saying you are undereducated in the field of Clayton.

now you if cant understand what i have said in the last couple posts, then you are a dumbass.


now i'm seriously done posting this in this thread. if you wanna keep talking , make a "Racers Lounge Clayton Bashing Thread" and i'll join you there.
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There's another way to do it.
You can ride without pushing so hard to the point to crash (this apply better for you since you are not a racer).
This might take you a little longer to grow, but you can raise your limit at the same time without hurting your body and wallet.
In a long run, this method probably last you longer, too.
But in the end, it's all up to individual.
Obviously my point of view and yours are two different things...
Whatever it is, have fun and don't get hurt too much.




Okay, just get hurt a little.
So I can make fun of you.
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1. if you are on the outside of someone on a corner, you better trust them. if you dont trust me, dont be on the outside of me going through a corner. i always pass on the outside because i could careless if you lowside into me, i took the risk by passing you on the outside, therefor it would be my fault.

2. i'm have nothing to prove. everyone that KNOWS me. KNOWS what i'm capable of. the rest of you, :/: yall are just ignorant.


and before you jump my case about "ignorant" know the definition.

ignorant -
1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.

so i'm not calling you a dumbass, as i was called many times in this thread, just saying you are undereducated in the field of Clayton.

now you if cant understand what i have said in the last couple posts, then you are a dumbass.


now i'm seriously done posting this in this thread. if you wanna keep talking , make a "Racers Lounge Clayton Bashing Thread" and i'll join you there.
Dude, I understand getting upset with some things, but man, I thought you were smarter than this. At least that is the impression I got from talking/ meeting with you.

I'm not bashing, and I'm sure you're very talented, however, some people are actually trying to provide insight and helpful hints.

With your dirt background and your practice/ work with stunting (balance and control), you would be a great candidate for road racing. However, even the most talented have a lot to learn at first.
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:36 PM   #98
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Jody is good people so is Clayton, however sometimes people don't know how to take them.

In the roadracing world, most of us actually help each other get faster, even if we're fierce competitors on the track.

Both Jody and Clayton can be a bit hot headed and both can be cocky, so it's no surprise they're bumping heads a bit.

As far as "losing respect" for someone you don't know / never met, ANYONE who makes that decision based on a couple of posts on a forum may want to reconsider.

IMO, it's wiser to build bridges than burn them, but that's probably just my age & experience talking.


Back on topic, I've been thinking alot about these bikes lately.
So much so that I may actually think about coming out of retirement, IF I can get my old beat up body to cooperate.
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