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Old 12-06-2007, 12:17 PM   #21
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Even given the aforementioned statement/text, I don't see the justification. I see what you are saying, but disagree with the legality/constitutionality of apprehending him based on the nature of the statement. He was speaking in past tense about an event which occurred in the past. How is it that such a statement can be twisted into a perceived valid potential threat or danger? As far as the stock pile he may or may not have had, he could very well be a legal carrier (CHL), in which case he would be fully within the confines of the law and legality doing nothing more than making an insensitive, stupid statement. Nothing illegal.
Yea not even touching on that point cause it would be discussing something we both agree on. cause you cant arrest for a crime that hasent happend unless you lived in the movies (ie minority report)

If i praise criminals that have shot and killed cops(example not the case at hand) does that not make my moral baseline skewed?
yet if he flipped out and came in and shot teachers and what not everyone would be crying why did the police do something before when he made insensitive, stupid statement.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:21 PM   #22
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If i praise criminals that have shot and killed cops(example not the case at hand) does that not make my moral baseline skewed?
yet if he flipped out and came in and shot teachers and what not everyone would be crying why did the police do something before when he made insensitive, stupid statement.
This is a great point and probably quite true, however, do you really feel that they needed to arrest him to see if he's a threat? That's a little much to me.
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:26 PM   #23
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Yea not even touching on that point cause it would be discussing something we both agree on. cause you cant arrest for a crime that hasent happend unless you lived in the movies (ie minority report)
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If i praise criminals that have shot and killed cops(example not the case at hand) does that not make my moral baseline skewed?
yet if he flipped out and came in and shot teachers and what not everyone would be crying why did the police do something before when he made insensitive, stupid statement.
Of course that would make your moral baseline skewed, possibly demented even, however, it does not amount to a criminal offense, nor should it. There should be preventative and offensively based (preemptive) measures in place to stop mass murderers ala the jackass that killed those people in Omaha because his ***** couldn't live w/o his g/f, but those measures should be more in the form of individuals carrying their own protection or authorities readily available and able to quickly respond to such situations. We can't be arresting folks for words, especially if they are not in the form of direct threats...
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Old 12-06-2007, 12:27 PM   #24
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This is a great point and probably quite true, however, do you really feel that they needed to arrest him to see if he's a threat? That's a little much to me.
Yep, investigators should be able to clandestinely investigate...
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