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Old 12-05-2007, 03:11 PM   #1
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The back end is trying to walk on me

I noticed latley when I grab 2 gears down before a turn or if I grab alot of brake, my tail wants to walk around on me.

What are some of the causes that I can look to correct.
My suspension has been set up already for my weight and short (hight)

It's a very uneasy feeling that your swing arm is giong to enter a corner before your forks :/:
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I noticed latley when I grab 2 gears down before a turn or if I grab alot of brake, my tail wants to walk around on me.

What are some of the causes that I can look to correct.
My suspension has been set up already for my weight and short (hight)

It's a very uneasy feeling that your swing arm is giong to enter a corner before your forks :/:
Get a Slipper clutch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slipper_clutch

As for the braking eh who needs brakes anyway
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:49 PM   #4
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Smoke the clutch, slipper clutch or more front brake with a later shift.
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Old 12-05-2007, 03:55 PM   #5
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RPM's arent high enough for the -2 gearchange.

options
1. blip throttle more to match gearin better.
2. slipper clutch
3. partially pull in clutch goin into turns like 2 strokers
4. raise idle speed (old racers trick to decrease engine braking)

i see alot of pro guys (gp) slidin all over the place, so noone can say its a BAD thing. Just learn to control it. One of my favorite things to watch is how 65% of racers slide the rear left to right slightly, and then the opposite direction they turn (rear right, turn left) and "fall" into the turn. SWEET. learn to do it right and maybe even scrub off some speed when needed.
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R U serious dude? (uneasy feeling? - its a great feeling!)

I love doing that going into T3 @ Texas World Speedway.

Might i suggest "blippin`" the throttle to match the RPMs a little better?
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Get a liter bike. Shifting's over rated.
J/k.
I used to have that problem quite a bit on the R1 also. Just had to learn to be smoother on the brakes and not to dump the clutch soo fast when bangin' down a couple gears.
Or like they said, just get a STM slipper and call it a day.
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The slipper clutch is over $1k USD for the 675
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how do you know if your bike has a slipper clutch? I have a 2000 F4 and I thought that most bikes since the early 90s had slipper clutches....

Please shed some light for me. thanks.
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how do you know if your bike has a slipper clutch? I have a 2000 F4 and I thought that most bikes since the early 90s had slipper clutches....

Please shed some light for me. thanks.
No slipper on the F4. Matter of fact, I think the Honders didn't put a slipper on the 600rr until '07... anyone got that somewhere? Maybe it's the '08 that finally got one.

Swift, are you sure your bike doesn't have a slipper clutch already? It felt like it when I rode your bike at TWS (Texas World Speedway)... or maybe that was just me being smoooooooth!
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Honda don't believe in slipper clutch until 07.
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Honda don't believe in slipper clutch until 07.
That's what I thought. Dang Honder bastiges.
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A slipper clutch is also wet and multi-plate, but it would probably say "slipper" next to it if it had one. I thought you had an '07 anyway.

I guess I was just smooooooth....
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I guess I was just smooooooth....
It's got to be the bike
Mine is an '06
I picked her up as soon as they were released
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No slipper in the '07 Honda............instead they have a "Back torque limiting valve" in the exhaust. Not sure why Honda still has no slipper when everyother mfg. has gone to it. Probably to do with the wear factor. If you are on a slippered bike, change your oil as often as you go to church.(well as offten as you should go, you freakin' heathen!!)Most slippers are the ramp style and wear quickly and all that metal is going into your oil.
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