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Old 12-04-2007, 11:56 AM   #21
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What about a shotgun in a leather holder like Arnold had in T2? Loaded too. Sure would be good to get cagers off your .
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Old 12-04-2007, 11:57 AM   #22
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Shouldn't this be in the questions for cops thread?
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:03 PM   #23
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unfortunately im in a gray area of the law... i have a deffered felony and im done with probation, so technically it is now dismissed, however its still on my record as a dismissed deffered felony. i cannot get a chl until 5 years after completing probation. but i can still purchase firearms and legally have them now. so i have to wait another 4 years before i can get a chl.

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If you get caught with it and the cop doesn't buy it and go down, it is a felony. It will likely be the last one you own.

My guess is that being on a bike is not the same as driving a car. On a bike, it is on your person be it in a tank bag, etc...


Best bet is to take the class, get the CHL and your covered!

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Old 12-04-2007, 12:05 PM   #24
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What about a shotgun in a leather holder like Arnold had in T2? Loaded too. Sure would be good to get cagers off your .
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:07 PM   #25
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the weapon may not be visible from any angle.
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I actually asked this to a cop recently. I work at Wells Fargo and this Sheriff comes in every now and then and I asked him if i was ok to carry a hand gun in a back pack or something say If i were to go to and from the shooting range like u would in a car. I told him i figure the answer was no cause its easily accessible. But he said they had lighten up on the gun carrying. He said its ok to carry a hand gun on a motorcycle. He said cops rarely ask anyways if you have a weapon on you unless there is a suspicious cause.

However, I have a several guns and still weary about leaving them in the trunk of my car simply for the fact that I think all cops are !@#$%es anyway and I dont have my CHL. I would rather not risk it and leave it at home until I get it.
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According to the Texas Penal Code child is defined by anyone under the age of 17. Otherwise you are legal to own any type of legal fire arm but, you will be restircted by other laws governing the sale of firearms.

Ok, with that out of the way the code provides that if you are traveling you may carry a concealed hand gun. It does not say you have to conceal it in a vehicle. So traveling on your motorcycle with it concealed in your jacket would arguably be ok in the eyes of the law. Now, if you are stopped by an officer, it may not be okay with them and they may take certain action. So, you are innocent until proven guilty but, innocence without proof of guilt will not keep you from being arrested.

This is by no means legal advice that you should use to justify your actions in life. If you want concrete direction you should consult your attorney who would deal with this matter in a court of law.
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Some people may choose to not give the state extra money for something they already have a right for.
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It's actually only a Cass A misdemeanor...but still, it'll cost more than a CHL class, plus an having a record...
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A CHL places an extra burden of obligation that some may choose to not under take and if those obligations are ingnored you may face stiffer penalties.
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Some people may choose to not give the state extra money for something they already have a right for.
what people don't realize is the law is constantly amended, the founding father laws arent as cut and dry as they were back then, loop holes, probable cause, junk like that.
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what people don't realize is the law is constantly amended, the founding father laws arent as cut and dry as they were back then, loop holes, probable cause, junk like that.
Well, that is what lawyers are for and if you have a CHL it would be advisable to have one on speed dial.
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I'd think its better to find the writting than asking. You ask cops and they give you their opinion on what they "think" it is. May be right on the money, or may be way off, and later down the line you tell another cop that "well he said this..." and they'll look at you stupid. just my 0.02
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can we get the exact law from the books on here? this way i can print it out, and keep it on me as leverage just in case. I have no reason to be getting pulled over though, im on a big slow cruiser and do not act stupid on my bike.
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If you are carring and are stopped by the Popo and they ask for your ID, you have to give them your CHL with your DR.
If you get pulled over and don't have a CHL, what are you going to do?
Hand the cop a loaded Python and say, "Well, they passed a law back in September..."
Or are you just going to wait and see if he searches you?

This was my thinking when I posted earlier. How are you going to inform the Popo that you are carring if you don't have a CHL?
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Found it... House Bill 1815, effective 9/1/07..

"allowing residents to carry a concealed weapon for protection while "traveling" in a private vehicle without a concealed weapon permit."

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs...c/HB01815F.doc

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLoo...0R&Bill=HB1815
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This was my thinking when I posted earlier. How are you going to inform the Popo that you are carring if you don't have a CHL?

I would probably start by saying "I have a loaded handgun in here, what would you like me to do with it?"

Seems like a simple answer to me, you are within the law why not just come out with it? I wouldn't pull it out to show him, I would inform him before he finds it though, especially since I have no reason to hide it. Cops will do different things about you having a gun, some ask you to put it on the passenger seat unloaded, etc etc.
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the weapon may not be visible from any angle.
Since when in Texas did long guns have to be concealed?
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"And so, this tiny metal deathtrap becomes known as the ultimate form of freedom. Like a steampunk cyborg, man and machine fuse to make a symbol of what you can become when style and speed matter more than safety and efficiency. Is it any wonder that some people just get mad every time they see a motorcycle go by? Because it challenges everything they have, while proving to them that they donít have enough."
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