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Old 12-03-2007, 01:51 PM   #41
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maybe cuz she was still fighting? :dontknow:
did you see the incident? she was trying to leave according to the occifer's side of the story. he grabbed her by the coat and the incident began. . .sounds like it could have been avoided.
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did you see the incident? she was trying to leave according to the occifer's side of the story. he grabbed her by the coat and the incident began. . .sounds like it could have been avoided.
so what was gonna happen to the 1 y.o.

Baby Grace?

but i'm sure w/ y'alls great hindsight the kid was perfectly safe, right?
cuz ever NORMAL parent wants to drop their kids off at the police station.
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nope, bet then i'm not the one saying the LEO shoulda........


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is doesn't count.

funny...I grew up in a law enforcement family...mom was INTERNAL AFFAIRS for 10 years of her 28 year career. I have more bad cop stories you could shake a stick at. Cops are people...people are lazy and foulable. you clearly are saying he was in the right with your stance. Good for you, you believe in something...so do I...It is called accountability.
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so what was gonna happen to the 1 y.o.

Baby Grace?

but i'm sure w/ y'alls great hindsight the kid was perfectly safe, right?
cuz ever NORMAL parent wants to drop their kids off at the police station.
why stereotype? I was just presenting the other side of the coin from yours.
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almost doesn't count.
In my case, proper Police training would remove the uncertainy. I'm just a regular guy who doesn't restrain people on a daily basis.
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dunno, maybe cuz a childs life could be in danger. :dontknow:
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In my case, proper Police training would remove the uncertainy. I'm just a regular guy who doesn't restrain people on a daily basis.
but somehow your almost certain you coulda restrained here.
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but somehow your almost certain you coulda restrained here.
You dam right I could. I've seen a female Police officer take down a man that was way bigger than her. You telling me that a male officer can't do the same witout a taser?
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dunno, wasn't there.

and way back to an earlier ?

"unfo dunno whats worse taz or tackling/restraining, do you ?"
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hmmm...lets see...they were in a police station and he could not have waited till a couple more officers showed up to help...he had to taser her right then and there because he was in danger...
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hmmm...lets see...they were in a police station and he coulda not have waited till a couple more officers showed up to help...he had to taser her right then and there because he was in danger...
dang there's that word again.
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dang there's that word again.
I know because a police station is the last place you'll find any cops right.
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dunno, maybe cuz a childs life could be in danger. :dontknow:
life in danger b/c she tried to drop him/her off at a police station? I wonder how many children's lives are in danger across the country and their parents don't have the sack to try and take them somewhere better, try to get them help? I'm not arguing for the lady or the cop, i've only been presented with one side of the story, and that's not enough for me to judge.

Someone's starting to remind me of gixxerbill. . .
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life in danger b/c she tried to drop him/her off at a police station? .
she also tried to leave, dammed if you do, dammed if ya don't.

cop doesn't hold her back, tomorrow you find a kids body. cops to blame!
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life is a woulda, coulda, shoulda kinda thing...In any given event there are multiple ways to handle it. some better than others...I would venture to say that tasering was not his only option had had that night.
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she also tried to leave, dammed if you do, dammed if ya don't.

cop doesn't hold her back, tomorrow you find a kids body. cops to blame!

Nobody here said she shoulda been allowed to leave...only the method he used to make her stay. phuckin read already.
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You dam right I could. I've seen a female Police officer take down a man that was way bigger than her. You telling me that a male officer can't do the same witout a taser?
Maybe he was a rookie [p*ssy] police ocifer!!!
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Kinda like a firefighter...there are certain physical demands that the job requires...do them or get lost.
Not that easy. That used to be the case, now we have "minimum standards" which seem to get lower and lower and lower all the time. If yall could see some of the folks who get in under "minimum standards" these days, you'd see why that is a lost cause- all to get women in to the services.

My take on this thing is that I have seen many "women" who were more manly than a lot of men I know, and I have seen some very big strong women get crazy before. I also have seen women with superhuman strenth from whatever their elicite substances of choice may be.

Here's the appearance I get by reading that article: Woman shows up with kid, doesn't want responsibility for raising him/her and wants to turn the kid in like a Wal-Mart return. Cop asks a few simple questions, woman, likely stoned or "coming down" gets frust and causes a ruckus. She gets warned many times to calm the eff down and doesn't. Officers taze her dumb . She then becomes compliant. End of story.

As for the tazer "killing" someone with a bad ticker, well, sure, it's possible. But for the "armchair" doctors out there, do you realize the difference in energy delivery between a "defibrillator" and a tazer? Look up "joules" and get back to me. After that, realize that defibrillation starts at 200 of 'em (except some bi-phasic units which are a bit lower).

Realize this too: simple restraints have "caused" deaths before too. Just about anything, in the right mixture/ timing, can cause your demise.

My bet is she deserved getting tazed, and shouldn't have acted an to get tazed while she was pregnant anyway. Any reasonable person can deduce that.
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