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Old 12-01-2007, 04:29 PM   #1
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i just got a carbon fiber yoshi slip on pipe do i need a power commander or is it safe to run it with out it?
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:34 PM   #2
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welcome to MH...and yeah get a power commander for best results
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:40 PM   #3
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but is it safe to run it with out one???
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:41 PM   #4
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will it run too lean ???
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:48 PM   #5
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It's not necessary with a slip on. Once you get a 3/4 or full system, then a PC3 would be necessary.
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:54 PM   #6
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well the pipe starts at the header it has a race cat on it is that considered a slip on?
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Old 12-01-2007, 04:55 PM   #7
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or 3/4?
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Post a picture if you can. That would be better. Thanks.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:14 AM   #10
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:15 AM   #11
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is this a slip on or 3/4
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:22 AM   #12
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can i run this pipe safely with out a power comander? hope so been for 2 weeks now
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^ dont forget that instead of getting a powercommander ($340) you can just get your ECU reprogrammed by a tech who has a yoshi box. most likely will charge you an hour ($70).

id recommend going to stubbs sw, and specificly ask for adam to do it for you.
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Usually stock headers keep all the backpressure and the mufflers are baffled with a straight cut; that said, only change in sound/astetics...
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:52 PM   #15
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Go to www.fuelmotousa.com I have the same exhaust. Got my PC mapped for my bike for $250
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:54 PM   #16
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That might have been a little unclear sorry. That price includes the PC. Not just for the mapping. Also keep your invoice # and the will send you updated maps if available at no charge.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:55 PM   #17
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I dont understand how can someone send you a PC3 and send you a map uploaded to it already tuned for your bike? Every bike is different and on tuning and some bike they might like more or less fuel and then theres others factory that come in to play like what you have done to the bike. Also you got to take in consideration the altitude, humidity, air temp ect ect.. There alot of factors when it come to tuning, and buying something with a preset tune is asking for trouble. With tuning a bike or any engine out there any tuner would need acess to dynojet with a good wideband meter to get the full potential from the air fuel mixture to get a smooth powerband with a good torque curve. Long story short, the best thing is to go see Patrick @ Motorcycles Unlimited and get it tuned in correctly with a dyno instead of using the meter. IMO.. Pay once, done rite = Happy riders. Trust me on this one, Patrick knows what Ive been through
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:15 AM   #18
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Fuel moto is an authorised Dyno Jet testing facility. They do alot of testing on each model with different mods. They ask you where you are located to comp altitude ect.... , as well as what modes and brands of mods. Yes all bikes are different, but this gets you pretty close for alot cheaper. A friend of mine thought it was BS to, but after riding my bike he said it was one of the fastest 600's he had been on.

Me and Gryphine have the same performance mods. He has a 636. We have raced several times and he always beats me, but not by alot. The kicker is that I weigh about 115 lbs more then he does. I think I did alright with my PC. No disrespect to Patrick I know he knows his stuff and is a good option as well. Dyno tuning is all that Fuel Moto does though so I think they put out a good product. Check there website out.
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you dont need a power comander. your not racing, changing the ecu settings on a street bike to get a few more horse power is pointless and expensive
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Fuel moto is an authorised Dyno Jet testing facility. They do alot of testing on each model with different mods. They ask you where you are located to comp altitude ect.... , as well as what modes and brands of mods. Yes all bikes are different, but this gets you pretty close for alot cheaper. A friend of mine thought it was BS to, but after riding my bike he said it was one of the fastest 600's he had been on.

Me and Gryphine have the same performance mods. He has a 636. We have raced several times and he always beats me, but not by alot. The kicker is that I weigh about 115 lbs more then he does. I think I did alright with my PC. No disrespect to Patrick I know he knows his stuff and is a good option as well. Dyno tuning is all that Fuel Moto does though so I think they put out a good product. Check there website out.

I understand what your saying about FuelMoto and im not bashing them at all. But when it comes to engines and tuning there isnt a margin for getting "pretty closes". Its eather on the money or its not, plus when it comes to tunning each tuner has a different way of tuning. Some guys have a real wild aggressive tune, while others might do a more conservative safer tune. When it comes to performance or any mods there is no such thing as cheap, remember you pay for what you get. And about the part where you said your friend said it felt fast, you might have felt the powerband or a lower torque based map. Sometime they move the powerband to a lower RPM so you can feel a difference, but the best way is to take it in and get a tune done rite in front of you, plus you and your tunner can discuss about what you want and where you want the power to be at or what he can do more to squeeze alittle more out of the top end or mid range. IMO go to Motorcycles Unlimited
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