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Old 12-01-2007, 07:49 AM   #1
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Easy way to learn stoppies

all you have to do is get cut off by a car that then slamms on there brakes right in front of you. This happened to me at about 5 45 in the mourning on my way to work. I locked up the rear tire but still couldnt stop enough so at the last moment i locked up the front and BUMP the end goes up for about 5 or ten feet then just as im about to jump the off the bike the in front of me starts movin again so i let off the front brake only to slam first onto the top of the gas tank
somehow i didnt dump the bike over
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Hmm little bit of luck maybe.


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this happened about a month ago, yeah they r but i have my M so i aint worried about them
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i will be an If you did go to a msf class you would know not to lock up brakes it takes away all your control. you would get alot out of it if you would go. MSF saves lifes
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MSF saves lives? Dam*, and all this time I thought it was the loud pipes that saved lives! JK, but seriously the MSF does do a lot of good for even the most experienced rider. Keep it safe!
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If you plan to ride the bike in traffic, learn the brakes! Should be second nature to use the front to it's max
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I did a rolling stoppies at 90mph in a race once. The cut right in front of me, I had to slammed on the brake and the rear end went up about 3ft and roll a good distance before it came back down. Lucky for me, I didn't panic and kept it under control. That was the scariest and greatest moment up to date, but wouldn't want to be in the same predicament next time.
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all you have to do is get cut off by a car that then slamms on there brakes right in front of you. This happened to me at about 5 45 in the mourning on my way to work. I locked up the rear tire but still couldnt stop enough so at the last moment i locked up the front and BUMP the end goes up for about 5 or ten feet then just as im about to jump the off the bike the in front of me starts movin again so i let off the front brake only to slam first onto the top of the gas tank
somehow i didnt dump the bike over
next time you might not get this lucky but this is a funny suggestion.
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If you plan to ride the bike in traffic, learn the brakes! Should be second nature to use the front to it's max
Thank you for that suggestion, maybe i should learn how to use brakes

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i will be an If you did go to a msf class you would know not to lock up brakes it takes away all your control. you would get alot out of it if you would go. MSF saves lifes
So should i have just ran into the back of the SUV? Stopping smoothly is not an option at 45 MPH in about 15 or 20 feet. I would like to know what the proper way to stop would be in that situation?
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i will be an If you did go to a msf class you would know not to lock up brakes it takes away all your control. you would get alot out of it if you would go. MSF saves lifes

Plant to? thats all i ride in, i dont believe MSF helps with people with people cutting across 3 lanes then slamming the brakes 15 feet in front of you. Once again MH members talk down on others
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As you experienced first-hand, the front brake provides pretty much all of your stopping power on a sportbike. IMO the rear brake is just for decorative purposes or maybe to prevent you from rolling when stopped at a red light on a hill. Your first reaction should be to use the front brake to its maximum effectiveness. In any scenario a locked wheel provides a significantly lower coefficient of friction with the road and therefore less stopping power and a longer stopping distance, simple physics. If you feel the brake locking release some pressure to unlock it. Always be aware of what the traffic is doing behind you as well because it does no good for avoid the car in front only to be hit from behind by a tailgator. You have to monitor the traffic behind as you ride so that you can take measures like flashing the brake light every so often to make tailgators back off or get them to pass you.

Practice your quick stops somewhere away from any traffic to get a feel for what the maximum braking performance is. Be prepared so that when something happens your reactions are instinctive and you're not trying to figure it out on the fly.
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As you experienced first-hand, the front brake provides pretty much all of your stopping power on a sportbike. IMO the rear brake is just for decorative purposes or maybe to prevent you from rolling when stopped at a red light on a hill. Your first reaction should be to use the front brake to its maximum effectiveness. In any scenario a locked wheel provides a significantly lower coefficient of friction with the road and therefore less stopping power and a longer stopping distance, simple physics. If you feel the brake locking release some pressure to unlock it. Always be aware of what the traffic is doing behind you as well because it does no good for avoid the car in front only to be hit from behind by a tailgator. You have to monitor the traffic behind as you ride so that you can take measures like flashing the brake light every so often to make tailgators back off or get them to pass you.

Practice your quick stops somewhere away from any traffic to get a feel for what the maximum braking performance is. Be prepared so that when something happens your reactions are instinctive and you're not trying to figure it out on the fly.
so your saying im supposed to pay attention to traffic around me? thx for advice i wasnt aware of that, is that what those mirror thingys that are attached to my bike are for?
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Once again MH members talk down on others
Glad to see the only casualty was you skivs
I'm also not trying to be a but, you said you'd never taken msf & a few advised you too. Nobody said you dont know how to ride, no need to be defensive. Advice is there for the taking, or if you know it all....

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Yeah, you have to not just pay attention but use what you see to help manage what is going on around you. I get your sarcasm, but you might be supprised by how many people never check their mirrors to see what is going on behind them.
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damm that "giving" decent following distance.
so if i cut u off in a car by like 10 or less feet then slam on the brakes at 45 MPH all in one motion how would you react with cars all around you?
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