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Old 11-29-2007, 09:28 AM   #1
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Exclamation Holiday Tree... HAHAHAH!!!

Boston's 'Holiday Tree' Sparks Controversy
By CHARLES R. DRUMMOND IV
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Last week the city of Boston officially renamed the giant spruce tree in Boston Common a “holiday tree” instead of a “Christmas tree.” This move has sparked controversy over the role of religion in municipal holiday celebrations.

In addition to local outcry from Boston Mayor Thomas Menino, who has said he doesn’t support the change enacted by the Department of Parks and Recreation, the televangelist Rev. Jerry Falwell has ridiculed the city and threatened a lawsuit over the incident.

“There’s been a concerted effort to steal Christmas,” Falwell told FOX Television last week.

Meanwhile, some members of the Christian community at Harvard criticized the notion of a “holiday tree.”

“The ‘holiday tree’ really is ridiculous. This is the Christmas season, and Dec. 25 is Christmas, not some general feel-good day of celebration,” said Philip D. Powell ’06, a member of the Harvard-Radcliffe Christian Fellowship.

Similarly, the editor of the Christian journal Harvard Ichthus, Jordan L. Hylden ’06, argued that renaming the tree did not advance the goal of inclusivity.

“We should be celebrating our religious diversity, instead of covering it up with bland inanities about ‘holiday trees,’” Hylden said.

On the other hand, the president of the Harvard Secular Society, Matthew R. George ’07, said he’s “all for keeping religious displays off of public property.”

“A move towards secularizing holiday displays is all right with me,” George said.

Reuters reported that several Boston residents voiced their dismay over the renaming of the tree on the city-run website promoting the Dec. 1 “Official Holiday Tree Lighting.”

According to the Boston Globe, Menino tried to distance himself from the effort to rename the tree, saying that he would continue to call the Nova Scotia spruce a “Christmas tree” regardless of the official name given by the Boston Department of Parks and Recreation.

“I grew up with a Christmas tree, I’m going to stay with a Christmas tree,” Menino told the Boston Globe on Thursday.

The Nova Scotia logger, Donnie Hatt, who felled the 48-foot tree was also upset about the name change, saying that he would not have cut down the tree had he known it was not going to be called a “Christmas tree.”

“I’d have cut it down and put it through the chipper,” Hatt told the Halifax Herald. “If they decide it should be a holiday tree, I’ll tell them to send it back. If it was a holiday tree, you might as well put it up at Easter.”

“Boston should just put ‘Return to Sender’ on it because we sent it as a Christmas tree, not a holiday tree,” Hatt said.

Nova Scotia Premier John Hamm has also joined in the debate.

During a trip to Calgary, Hamm was asked to speak on the situation, since the province of Nova Scotia donated the tree to Boston.

“When it left Nova Scotia, it was a Christmas tree,” Hamm said, according to the Toronto Globe and Mail.

The tensions surrounding the tree this year have cast a shadow over a tradition between Boston and Canada.

For the past 34 years, Nova Scotia has sent a carefully-selected tree to Boston as a gesture of gratitude for the help that Boston gave to Halifax—the capital of Nova Scotia—in the aftermath of a December 1917 explosion of two ships near the port of Halifax that killed and injured thousands of citizens.

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On the other hand, the president of the Harvard Secular Society, Matthew R. George ’07, said he’s “all for keeping religious displays off of public property.”

“A move towards secularizing holiday displays is all right with me,” George said.


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so he shouldn't get any of the benefits associated with christmas like overtime if he works on Christmas.
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Effin people! ****ing get over it! No one else uses a christmas tree so why called it a holiday tree? This is where people cross the line. I will not say happy hanuka (sp) or quanza (sp) and to athiest it is going to be MERRY CHRISTMAS just to bug ya'll.

Offensive my ! Go do something better with that time and quick insulting the rest of the folks because your little heart got hurt. Stfu.

And note to everyone: christmas is something I do not celebrate but when someone is trying to be nice, I don't get my panties in a bundle like some do.
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i call it happy pagan Wood day..... but thats just me
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Holiday Tree... My A$$.. its Christmas.. celebrate it or not.. just dont ruin it for others that do...
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for me ... every Wood Day is a happy day...
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i call it happy pagan Wood day..... but thats just me
Atleast I save money on not buying and pagan wood day tree and deal with throwing it away! WOOT!
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for me ... every Wood Day is a happy day...
WTF!
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its a "Age" joke...
Yea, I got that Mr. When I get wood, it is a happy day.
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im not allowed to put "merry christmas" on my marquee. it has to say "happy holidays" or nothing. ghey.
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To think that atheists are offended by "merry christmas" is ridiculous.

If they city officials of Boston want to rename their tree, they have every right to. That's why they are elected. If you don't like what they do, maybe you should rethink your vote next time around.
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To think that atheists are offended by "merry christmas" is ridiculous.
not putting blame on one particular group like atheists myself. but theyre (politicians) so bent on being PC that theyre willing to change tradition that is still practiced by the majority of the nation just to appease the few is whats rediculous. it doesnt matter who you elect. theyre all p*ssies.

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wont argue with that. they sure do. and they apparently arent doing what they were ELECTED to do, which is to keep the best interests of their constituents at heart.

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thats where youre wrong. theyre elected because they talk a good game and turn to once theyre in office.
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thats where youre wrong. theyre elected because they talk a good game and turn to once theyre in office.
Have to disagree with you there. Most politicians turn to the minute they start studying politics. They always just talk good to get in office. Kinda like when you know your wife doesn't look good in something and you say she does just to avoid conflict.
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