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Old 11-29-2007, 05:46 PM   #101
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fresh prince and dj jazzy jeff FTW!
"parent just don't understand"......summer, summer, summer, time!
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"parent just don't understand"......summer, summer, summer, time!
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The funny part is, back when that song came out and me & my mom got into it, those words "parents just don't understand" came out my mouth.

Again life imitating art (in an extremely small way), the difference btwn now and then is the lyrics and content of the art has changed and parents now need to pay a lot more attention!
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Old 11-29-2007, 05:58 PM   #106
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Yea, I think I remember trying to relay that hint to my parents, but oh well. They were like....son, be a man. You want to be treated as an adult? Then act like one.
And ur parents like my grandparents who raised me had those morals to pass on, honestly these days, there are no more "Grannie's", or "Ma Ma, or "Mi Mi's" to crack the whip and put our kids into shape.

Homes are broken, parents r frustrated and take it out on the kids physically or emotionally when they interact with them. Of course it's different content, but we or better yet the youth imitate it anyway cause its their outlet or hope to something better, and unlike u and/or I, they may not have that guiding light in a PRODUCTIVE parent that can put some sense into them.
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:02 PM   #107
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Old 11-29-2007, 06:05 PM   #108
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And to bring it back around to the origination of this thread,

those frustrated parents, raise frustrated kids, who watch their parents blame their troubles on the system, who hear the Tupac lyrics blaming the system they grew up in and they feel a connection with another black who along with a slew of other black, exhibit the same feeling, and then BOOM, "i'm a victim of circumstances or the system" role gets played, and coming from their prospective quite honestly they r to a degree accurate.

Poor white trash is not the mainstream or what they can connect to, but there lies the same adventure!
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Loved the discussion hun, I could go on for days about the race card, music, etc, but honestly whether u know it or believe it or not, it's a valid theory, gotta go though!

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FWIW, this is not the first (or last) time Jason Whitlock has written about this issue. He is a very good writer and is to the point and isn't blind to the problems that black Americans face today.

He was on the Jim Rome show today talking about it as well. I LOVE reading his articles and listening to his interviews.

+100 to Jason Whitlock.
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yea cause no one from those areas steals LOL your logic is flawed
Everyone of those areas has their own "suburban-gangstas" who think they are hard. It doesn't matter where you live these days. The young kids act up and think they are hardcore regardless if they live in the hood or live in a gated community. I've seen the suburb. thugs with my own eyes too many times.

It's much more than just about "where you live" that affects the outcome of young kids these days.
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Katy is FULL of "suburban gangstas"! That's one of the most common places to see them. Crime in that area has skyrocketed in the past 10 years. I grew up near there so I've seen it go downhill.
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so what? you're saying black people have different problems than white people?
In most cases the answer is no, in some the answer is still yes. Bank loans are one area with a massive disparity. I had to threaten to sue to get the bank to approve my 1st home loan (I had an 800+ credit rating at the time and proven sufficient income to get the house.)

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people that can "justify' that statement are the ones with the problem.
I disagree. But I do think, that people that use that statement to justify not making the effort to change things, are the problem.

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EVERYONE IN AMERICA IS ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD
Not yet, but it is much better than it was and getting better every day.

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....stop using race as a cop-out! THE SAME OPPERTUNITIES ARE THERE FOR EVERYONE!
Not yet, but it is much better than it was and getting better every day.

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are you aware of how many WHITE company owners put minorities in "charge" of their companies to get awarded city contracts?
This is because city bureaucracies are, historically, often the most lacking when judging services based on merit or ability. The good old boy network was alive and thriving well into the late 70's. It was only when the Federal government interceded, and started offering incentives to company's with minority employees, that minorities were given a chance.

Today's diverse workforce is a direct result of those laws, initiatives and actions. The downside is that over time they have become excessively verbose, redundant, counter intuitive and archaic.

In my honest humble opinion, they do not need to be abolished but they are past due to be reevaluated.

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can we at least agree that lifes not fair and hard work pays off?
On that we do agree. But some still have to work harder than others, just ask any successful woman.
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On that we do agree. But some still have to work harder than others, just ask any successful woman.
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haha, not all women, I know a lot of women get special treatment due to their looks. Intended or not. Higher pay, and get hired over better qualified men. Just depends if you can find the right man to hire.
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less qualified people get hired cause their skin is the "right" color?
Thus it is the Government's fault that private companies hire non qualified personnel?

To bring the issue down to skin color being "right" or "wrong" is indicative of a monumental bias that no logical discourse can sway or influence.

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because someone is being LAZY .....they need to be ouright ABOLISHED!
Stupid, lazy people come in a multitude of shapes, sizes, ethnicities and . You seem to fixate on a very small, yet vocal group.

I guess we all have our cross to bear or dragon to slay. I hope you make peace with yours.
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