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Old 11-27-2007, 11:50 AM   #141
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Why not teach the "theory" of in school? Why not make it manditory?

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your a goober
christopher columbus found america for the easten world
he discovered it for the modern world
the text book talks about indians and aztec mexicans, so obviously they were here.
my history text also talk about the vikings finding some "northern" western territory. but they have no idea what they found, nor did they feel the need to explore
Yea, I learned that in middle school, and learned ever more in high school. All my nieces were taught and my sisters and friends were taught that he discovered America. Period.
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Isn't it theory?
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:51 AM   #144
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and why is that?
Because if you believe that, then you have to believe that the earth is billions of years old and not 6,000 years.
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Yea, I learned that in middle school, and learned ever more in high school. All my nieces were taught and my sisters and friends were taught that he discovered America. Period.
wtf? you learned what i said but they didnt?
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Isn't what a theory?
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theory that is to be taught is backed by fact

theres no proof a , its faith in
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According to carbon dating, textual analysis, and handwriting analysis the documents were written at various times between the middle of the 2nd century BC and the 1st century AD.

Before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, the oldest Hebrew manuscripts of the Bible were Masoretic texts dating to 9th century. The biblical manuscripts found among the Dead Sea Scrolls push that date back to the 2nd century BC. Before the discovery, the oldest Greek manuscripts such as Codex Vaticanus and Codex Sinaiticus were the earliest extant versions of biblical manuscripts. Although some of the biblical manuscripts found at Qumran differ significantly from the Masoretic text, most do not. The scrolls thus provide new variants and the ability to be more confident of those readings where the Dead Sea manuscripts agree with the Masoretic text or with the early Greek manuscripts.
These scrolls agree with what is in the bible and is older than the bible, good that means we got it right.
If they were found after the bible was written, where do get them being used to write it?
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your a goober

christopher columbus found america for the easten world

he discovered it for the modern world

the text book talks about indians and aztec mexicans, so obviously they were here.

my history text also talk about the vikings finding some "northern" western territory. but they have no idea what they found, nor did they feel the need to explore
Christopher Columbus found the West Indies... IE. The Caribean. Leif Erikson found America.... of course that was after the Vikings found it... ant that was after the Natives found it.
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Christopher Columbus found the West Indies... IE. The Caribean. Leif Erikson found America.... of course that was after the Vikings found it... ant that was after the Natives found it.
your correct
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wtf? you learned what i said but they didnt?
I said in elementary... We didn't learn anything about that topic but... in 1492 Christopher Columbus sailed the ocean blue, and he discovered America. I remember how much praise we gave him for that and other .
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These scrolls agree with what is in the bible and is older than the bible, good that means we got it right.
If they were found after the bible was written, where do get them being used to write it?
Can you provide some proof that the Dead Sea Scrolls coincide with what is in the bible. To my knowledge there are many discrepancies between them. Some of which support a very different point of view.
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Only if what has been documented is correct and we should question that as well. Because as we all know, history is written by those who win the wars.
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theory that is to be taught is backed by fact

theres no proof a , its faith in
There is no proof that the moon was once a piece of the earth, but it's theory; a very widely accepted theory. Or that Pangea actually existed, but again, another widely accepted theory. Or better yet, that we descended from Apes.

And evolution... Big theory.
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Can you provide some proof that the Dead Sea Scrolls coincide with what is in the bible. To my knowledge there are many discrepancies between them. Some of which support a very different point of view.
The only thing that I know about them is that they were discovered too late to be included in the bible and that they are said to be the gospel of St. Thomas that was also too late to be included in the bible.
I have read this gospel to see what the fuss was all about...
That is all I can really offer other than Cogs posting that it was used to write our current version.
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These scrolls agree with what is in the bible and is older than the bible, good that means we got it right.
If they were found after the bible was written, where do get them being used to write it?
you have me confused. When you say found, they were found in the 20th century. Do you mean written? Just because they are the only known hidden or found copy of our time, doesn't mean they were in fact the ONLY copy in history IMO. I am going strictly off opinion on this, but if they were written before the bible, and they were lost/hidden to never be found again till our time, that means there was in fact more copies out..... I would think. :dontknow:
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Only if what has been documented is correct and we should question that as well. Because as we all know, history is written by those who win the wars.
well yes, thats true too, in the old days

but now we write history about wars that arent even our wars, then again were bias toward "allies" or the side that holds the most to win for us
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you have me confused. When you say found, they were found in the 20th century. Do you mean written? Just because they are the only known hidden or found copy of our time, doesn't mean they were in fact the ONLY copy in history IMO. I am going strictly off opinion on this, but if they were written before the bible, and they were lost/hidden to never be found again till our time, that means there was in fact more copies out..... I would think. :dontknow:
The books of the bible were decided on in 400 AD. That is when the die was cast... so to speak
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But it seems like it is used as a defense to discredit Christianity. Which many writings that were passed down could be misinterpreted to use against Christianity.
I am not sure why you think it would discredit Christianity? We are just trying to explain the holidays which often originated from locals' traditions and are incorporated and often 'customized' by Christian worshippers.

It is just interesting how Christian followers are die-hard set on the belief that everything originated 1500 or so years ago.

It would be the same as saying that Thanksgiving is American. The origin was thanking or the gods for the harvest and once in America, the pilgrims americanized it to the point where it is a holiday now.

It is not that the Christians had a summon in the church and decided out of pure coincidence 'Hey, let's invent Halloween, or let's have a Christmas tree for Jesus' birth and let's put it up the 25th.' It all goes back to traditions and how they developed and evolutionized over hundreds of years.
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