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Old 11-27-2007, 12:16 PM   #181
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Actually, in the book of Acts the followers of Jesus Christ - then called followers of "The Way" - were first called Christians at Antioch. ( Acts 11:26 ) The date can be narrowed down to about 30 to 40 years after the acension of Christ.

And as a matter of fact, people did jump up and say, "Hey, we're Christians now!" and were tormented, tortured, and killed for it. Read the book of Acts.

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even still their taught as theories that has evidence

if things change im sure as adults we will be learn other wise, when the facts comes out
There is also evidence that the 3 Kings existed and other stories in the bible and only shows 's existance is because they believed it and used their faith and other examples as evidence.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:20 PM   #184
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even still their taught as theories that has evidence

if things change im sure as adults we will be learn other wise, when the facts comes out
I know, and that is what is wrong with it. You find a group of scientist who really BELIEVE that they research is true with a tiny amount of evidence to prove their theory and it's either accepted, or not and BAM taught in a manditory science class.
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Old 11-27-2007, 12:20 PM   #185
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There is also evidence that the 3 Kings existed and other stories in the bible and only shows 's existance is because they believed it and used their faith and other examples as evidence.
so your saying there is none?

ya im sure some on the stories were semi-true, im sure there was a jesus, and i bet he was a great guy.

still doesnt prove theres
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I don't think I am taking it too far. Christianity is a following, a belief, a religion, a faith, just like Judism is, Islam is, Wicca, Buddahism, Hindu etc. Nobody can discredit a faith if that is what you believe in. Everyone finds meaning in life in a different and their way.

One can argue the Bible, the belief in itself or unproven facts claimed to be true by the believers. In the end, it is all discussion, don't get so defensive.
Couldn't agree with you more, but my defense was against the post you made, you were saying (assuming you meant me) Christians aren't willing to believe that everything originated 1500 years ago, and what I was saying did not reflect your comment at all. I was just showing that things could have been twisted against Christians, just like people say writings were twisted FOR Christians.
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I know, and that is what is wrong with it. You find a group of scientist who really BELIEVE that they research is true with a tiny amount of evidence to prove their theory and it's either accepted, or not and BAM taught in a manditory science class.
thousands of scientist theorize what they believe, but cant find real fact

the ones that do are taught as theroies
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what evidence is there that exists? and try to give me some without saying.....bible

Well tell me that we descended from Ape with out a science book.
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There is also evidence that the 3 Kings existed and other stories in the bible and only shows 's existance is because they believed it and used their faith and other examples as evidence.

There are a lot of places and things mentioned in the bible that exist. It's the leap to the supernatural beings and acts that lacks evidence. Without that, there is no evidence for your . If you base evidence on belief, there is/was belief in many gods, but you aren't arguing your case for Thor or Zeus?
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Well tell me that we descended from Ape with out a science book.
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Well tell me that we descended from Ape with out a science book.
theres skeletons in museums

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No, she's correct. It takes time to get the message out. Christ new this when he sent his apposels out to spread the word of Christ and his teachings. I don't have a bible infront of me but it was Easter, the 1st one actually.

There were thousands of people who trusted Christ and were converted at Peters sermon in Jerusalem. ( Acts 2:41 ) The Bible says that, "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls."

The growth of the early church didn't consist of "one guy here, one woman there". There were new converts coming in by the thousands. Those converts weren't "Sunday morning pew" Christians, they took up the cross and followed Jesus and preached the Gospel right along side the origional 11.

It took time for the gospel to leave the immediate area, but as far as Israel was concerned, one day there were Jews, and the next there were Christians among them.


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There are a lot of places and things mentioned in the bible that exist. It's the leap to the supernatural beings and acts that lacks evidence. Without that, there is no evidence for your . If you base evidence on belief, there is/was belief in many gods, but you aren't arguing your case for Thor or Zeus?
Very valid points. I do recall one, the parting of the red sea. They actually discovered an army of armor and carriages and such at the bottom of it if I recall correctly. Let me look for it. That is the only "Supernatural" one that I can think of haveing a smidge of physical proof behind.
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There is also evidence that the 3 Kings existed and other stories in the bible and only shows 's existance is because they believed it and used their faith and other examples as evidence.
What about the Greek gods and godesses? Aphrodite, Ares or Athena?

People always believed in supernatural powers but they also all believed that the way they interpreted it was the right way. Greeks believed there was a for everything in life while Israelities believed that Moses was sent from one . History shows that people went from believing in multiple gods to believing there is only one .

Is it because people have the need to explain things they cannot explain or is it because people have the deep need for a meaning in life or is it because there is truly a supernatural power, and if, which interpretation is real?

Those are the questions that prevent me from committing to one specific faith or any for that matter.
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the ones that do are taught as theroies
No, ones that still don't are taught as theories. That is why they are called theories. We were taught that dinasours were creatures with no hair for how long? Now we find out they actually had hair?

These are all theories. Evolution has not been proven, the trail of Ape to humans has not been proven, the moon has not been proven, neither has 's existance. It's all the same. It is what you believe to be "fact".
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I know, and that is what is wrong with it. You find a group of scientist who really BELIEVE that they research is true with a tiny amount of evidence to prove their theory and it's either accepted, or not and BAM taught in a manditory science class.
You make a lot of claims against science, but you aren't disputing the actual evidence. You're dismissing things based on your beliefs.


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There are a lot of places and things mentioned in the bible that exist. It's the leap to the supernatural beings and acts that lacks evidence. Without that, there is no evidence for your . If you base evidence on belief, there is/was belief in many gods, but you aren't arguing your case for Thor or Zeus?
I agree with you 100% on that. I am providing comparisons on religion and science. They are the same. Well except for what chemicals we use, gravity, and things like social darwinism.
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I have seen a movie of it. I have taken anthropology so learn more of this. Still doesn't prove anything. The closest evidence we have of this is Lucy.
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No, ones that still don't are taught as theories. That is why they are called theories. We were taught that dinasours were creatures with no hair for how long? Now we find out they actually had hair?

These are all theories. Evolution has not been proven, the trail of Ape to humans has not been proven, the moon has not been proven, neither has 's existance. It's all the same. It is what you believe to be "fact".
what theory is taught without any fact?

that link you gave me gave three theories. i was taught the moon got caught in the gravitational pull. which is true in all the theories, weither or not it spun off the earth and got caught, or a metor bounceing off getting caught, etc
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What about the Greek gods and godesses? Aphrodite, Ares or Athena?

People always believed in supernatural powers but they also all believed that the way they interpreted it was the right way. Greeks believed there was a for everything in life while Israelities believed that Moses was sent from one . History shows that people went from believing in multiple gods to believing there is only one .

Is it because people have the need to explain things they cannot explain or is it because people have the deep need for a meaning in life or is it because there is truly a supernatural power, and if, which interpretation is real?

Those are the questions that prevent me from committing to one specific faith or any for that matter.
I am not arguing agaisnt peoples beliefs. I am stating that a lot of science is not fact either.
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