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Old 11-26-2007, 03:55 AM   #1
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Stunt park in the making.......?

Was just on SL and was reading about how they're trying to make a stunt park down there in FL. What I was thinking, dependent on how semi-big the stunt community is, how would you all feel about a stunt park here in houston?

They have skate parks built all around houston to keep em off the schools and streets, so why couldnt we apply that to stuntriders as well? Now of course, the obvious question lies about liability to oneself or property etc. etc., but if motocross parks are allowed to be built with liabilty waivers for individuals participating in such events, then I believe the same could apply for a "stunt park".

Just have any and all riders that want to ride in "said" facility sign a liability waiver that's been notarized and legal locked so that way the park doesnt fall under responsibility for death, dismemberment etc. etc.......

Plus, I also believe that with this idea taking off, we could set a positive role for the younger generation as well as older, that we want to take this off the streets and start promoting a good name for stuntriders.

Plus, it would also attract revenue dependent on if some teams would like to do shows or host other events.......

Then come the sponsors. Just think of all the publicity we could make them by selling gear, parts, drinks, helmets, you name it. I dont want to think too big outside the box, but let's hear some opinions on this. I want honest feedback and no bullshit. I really think this would/could be a not to distant dream given the right attitude......
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:44 AM   #2
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Sounds like a great idea, good views on the sponsorships and keeping stunts off the busy streets. But might want to consider making some sort of criteria for the riders to meet before just anybody could go in there, sign the waiver, and stunt. It would suck for some noob to hurt/kill themself or anybody else for that matter. It would start to look real bad real quick if that happened.
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good luck with that one del

can we say lawsuit after lawsuit

im not going to want to ride at some place with a bunch of squids power wheeling all over the place
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:17 PM   #4
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Yeah, it is a noble idea, but might have a hard time getting some of these guys to follow any type of safety rules as alot of stunters I've seen tend to have a total disregard for safety in general(no hatin' intended). It would be cool though, and I'd come check it out, but it would take alot of policeing and management to make it work. Good luck to you if you decide to do it.
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:19 PM   #5
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I see yer point about the squids greg, but there's gotta be a better way were going to keep down on the calamari that would enter the park. Sorta like you have to know a certain amount of tricks type deal....

What about guys who like to endo/stoppie? :dontknow:
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:21 PM   #6
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Yeah, it is a noble idea, but might have a hard time getting some of these guys to follow any type of safety rules as alot of stunters I've seen tend to have a total disregard for safety in general(no hatin' intended). It would be cool though, and I'd come check it out, but it would take alot of policeing and management to make it work. Good luck to you if you decide to do it.
I see your point on that as well. I know there would be alot of factors in play for this to happen, but every point that's been spoken can also be applied to skate and motocross parks. There's squids in every aspect of sports, some less dangerous than others.......:dontknow:
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:23 PM   #7
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I think it's a great idea!
What truly needs to be researched is Texas liability laws and cost of insurance.
Texas has some unique perspectives on "signing away ones rights", i.e. hold harmless waiver.

Maybe one of our resident attorneys would care to elaborate?
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that would be nice... but wouldnt u have to pay to ride there? most guys get paid to ride places or have there own spot to practice without payin to ride
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Old 11-26-2007, 12:42 PM   #9
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that would be nice... but wouldnt u have to pay to ride there? most guys get paid to ride places or have there own spot to practice without payin to ride
Tis true George. But how many times have we gotten thrown out of our lots or had our blown up a la ASI style? I mean, this is just not any regular park for every squid within a 100 mile radius to congregate too. Wether we like it or not, there's gotta be rules for people to follow by.......


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1) Always WEAR UR GEAR.....

2) Make sure your bike is in working condition (this will be a hard one for stunters....)

3) RIDE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!! :dontknow:
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Plus it's also dependent on what kind of contractual agreements we would have with actual "Sponsored Team Riders".......

Sorta like the "Toyota Center or Minute Maid Park" for stuntriders......


Maybe waiver the fee's to stunt teams who are already set in stone and not just give it out to some squid who say's he represents this team and can barely do a wheelie.......
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Yeah, it is a noble idea, but might have a hard time getting some of these guys to follow any type of safety rules as alot of stunters I've seen tend to have a total disregard for safety in general(no hatin' intended). It would be cool though, and I'd come check it out, but it would take alot of policeing and management to make it work. Good luck to you if you decide to do it.
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I see your point on that as well. I know there would be alot of factors in play for this to happen, but every point that's been spoken can also be applied to skate and motocross parks. There's squids in every aspect of sports, some less dangerous than others.......:dontknow:
skate parks , skateboards going what 5mph where u can run to avoid someone. at skate parks kids wanting to learn can go off on their own and stay out of the way of each other. it would seem a bunch of 300lb bikes flying around wouldnt be the safest thing

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that would be nice... but wouldnt u have to pay to ride there? most guys get paid to ride places or have there own spot to practice without payin to ride
i guess the perk would be its the hang out spot for all stunters, but ya paying to ride every weekend would be eh

i can see something like this being a logical idea in florida b/c their stunt crowd is huge , but i dont think houston's stunt scene is THAT big to attract enough people to stay a float and attract enough revenue
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3) RIDE AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!! :dontknow:
are you going to feel safe in a big lot with 10 people trying to learn 60mph 1st gear wheelies

just think of old asi days when everyone was like "im not riding too dangerous"
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See? That's the only thing i'm a little skeptical about. Do we or if we had a big enough community of riders, would we still be able to keep a place like this running? I mean, this is still just an idea, but imagine the possibilities......
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That's why we cant open this up just to anyone. Or, or.....have a designated section for "rookies" and "advanced" riders. No one said it would be easy trying to figure all this out, but I think I know where your coming from greg. Your just trying to throw me all the plausible possibilities and see if it's even still worth it.......
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are you going to feel safe in a big lot with 10 people trying to learn 60mph 1st gear wheelies

just think of old asi days when everyone was like "im not riding too dangerous"
we could have speed limit signs and our own police to kick ppl out who break the rules... lol unless ur doin a coaster or stoppie u cant go over 10 mph... haha
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That's why we cant open this up just to anyone. Or, or.....have a designated section for "rookies" and "advanced" riders. No one said it would be easy trying to figure all this out, but I think I know where your coming from greg. Your just trying to throw me all the plausible possibilities and see if it's even still worth it.......
but the defintion of rookies and advanced is im the rookie and joe is the advanced
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.....while that could be a possibility as well george, it's not a bad idea.

Maybe designate a certain MPH speed limit that if broken, your ejected from the park. Sorta like, staying off the big ramps in skate parks that you had to pay to go to.

I know there's alot of if's, and's and but's, but this is not something I want to rush into not knowing the full aspect of what it would entail to make it a reality. So keep the ?'s coming, cause this makes for a very informative idea.....
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That's why we cant open this up just to anyone. Or, or.....have a designated section for "rookies" and "advanced" riders. No one said it would be easy trying to figure all this out, but I think I know where your coming from greg. Your just trying to throw me all the plausible possibilities and see if it's even still worth it.......
not going to make revenue if you make it secluded unless your just a baller and buying something like this for friends only

ya when i brainstorm ideas and concepts i always think of all the cons first THEN go to the pro. so you know what is the worst that can happen

there are tons of factors that would need to be thought about i think

1. on site emergency care
as opposed to a skate park yes there might be broken ankles bones etc, i think more damage can happen with someone trying to learn to wheelie and 300lb bike

2. size of area if it was to happen
if your wanting to keep the squids same from each other and everyone else it would have to be a pretty large slab of concrete. that where there could be a safety net or fence put in place to divide the 2 areas

3. cost just to maintain the area
restrooms, food drink ? or is this just some wide open piece of land to ride on. why not just buy an old run way and have at it

i could go on and on
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but the defintion of rookies and advanced is im the rookie and joe is the advanced
LOL....i'm pretty sure alot of us are rookies.....my squid-a-licous self included.....



But, it would give newbies a chance to start practicing without putting other advanced riders at risk.....

This also goes in hand with new riders going to fast wanting to learn. Sorta like a "dont get out of first gear" policy......
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im thinkin the only way this would open is if a motorcycle shop opened on a big enough piece of land
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