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Old 11-23-2007, 12:43 AM   #1
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Judgement Day - Intelligent Design On Trial

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Great program covering the trial in Dover, PA.


Still pretty amazing how people don't understand science, can argue so hard against it.

Not to give it away, but wow, at the underhanded attempts to push a very thinly veiled creationist agenda into the science classroom.


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I'VE READ SEVERAL BOOKS THAT DEAL W/ THE DEBATE OF ID VS. EVOLUTION. DAWKNIN'S " THE GOOD DELUSION" IS A BRILLIANT BOOK, IT'S ALMOST HILARIOUS THE WAY HE RIDICULES INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
I'LL TRY TO WATCH IT--NOT NOW--BUT I ALREADY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. I HOPE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM TAKE THE TIME TO AT LEAST WATCH THIS VIDEO.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:01 AM   #6
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I'VE READ SEVERAL BOOKS THAT DEAL W/ THE DEBATE OF ID VS. EVOLUTION. DAWKNIN'S " THE GOOD DELUSION" IS A BRILLIANT BOOK, IT'S ALMOST HILARIOUS THE WAY HE RIDICULES INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
I'LL TRY TO WATCH IT--NOT NOW--BUT I ALREADY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. I HOPE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM TAKE THE TIME TO AT LEAST WATCH THIS VIDEO.

Definitely watch it.

There were two points to the trial. 1) Is ID a science and 2) Did the school board violate the constitution by trying to promote religion or use religious motivation in introducing ID to the science class.

It's pretty amazing that people pushing ID as a science, have no real scientific training. You might find the odd scientist or two, there was on testifying on behalf of ID in the video, but it seemed to me his book on ID was just to fill a void on the topic.

The school board member trying to push for ID, and the other pro ID people kept saying the same thing over and over. Evolution is a theory, not fact, ID is a theory, so it should be taught too.

That was their main argument outside of the trial. Obviously not understanding scientific theory.

During the trial, their ONLY attempt at a scientific argument was some theory about flagellum bacteria's motor drive. No tests had been done, and it didn't seem like they intended to.

The ID side argued that ID is not a form of creationism and that it is a science. I got a big laugh when the previous versions of the ID text book were dug up and there was a missed instance where the editors had gone through the book doing a search and replace on 'creationists' and replaced it with 'design proponents'. 'dcreation proponentsist' <-- lol oops.
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I watched this program a couple of weeks ago. It confirms what I have always believed - Creationism/Intellegent design is not Science. It's religion.
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Old 11-27-2007, 04:19 PM   #11
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i want a bump

and crystal will not watch it her is me so HA
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I'VE READ SEVERAL BOOKS THAT DEAL W/ THE DEBATE OF ID VS. EVOLUTION. DAWKNIN'S " THE GOOD DELUSION" IS A BRILLIANT BOOK, IT'S ALMOST HILARIOUS THE WAY HE RIDICULES INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
I'LL TRY TO WATCH IT--NOT NOW--BUT I ALREADY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. I HOPE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS FORUM TAKE THE TIME TO AT LEAST WATCH THIS VIDEO.
I have learned quite a bit of ID V. Evolution and heard a few debates between students questions and teachers with PHd from all sorts of backgrounds and religions but apparently all the school I have is irrelevant.
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