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Old 11-24-2007, 10:14 AM   #21
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That's nicer'n ours, which are burned on a DVR. If we're lucky the body mic works.

I'm sick and tired of drunks, always wanting to fight, puking in my shop, making me go hands on.
Our guys can upload at a whole bunch of "hot spots" in the City, a few of our FD stations are hot spots for them. Seems pretty cool, but it takes a while for them to be able to upload- they can send reports and the camera/ audio lapel mic files too.

Question about the puk-ee drunks: Why is it that you guys can pick them up, take them to the lock-up, but have to call FD/ EMS to take them to the hospital because they're drunk? Or is that just our guys that do that?

Seems to me that if yall are capable of driving them to the pd, you'd be capable of driving them to the ER instead of taking an ambulance and pumper out of service to do it.

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driving into oncoming traffic. I've seen a few accidents where that happened and no one survived or the drunk survived and the innocent is dead. very sad. glad you pulled over the stupid and took her to jail.
Surprisingly, the drunks are always the ones to walk away... boy have I got some stories (that I won't tell on the internet).

Fuxed up fact, I think it has to do with them being so relaxed or unaware of what's going on. I can easily recall many accidents where drunks killed someone or a bunch of innocent folks, but the drunk walked away. It's really tough to recall the ones where the drunk was killed or seriously injured. It happens, but I can honestly say it happens more that the drunk walks away.
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I remember on in particular where the nurse driving home from work got hit head on by someone going the wrong way on 59 (north of kingwood). I was just driving around w/ friends being bored and came up on the scene, life flight was there taking the nurse w/ the broken neck and who knows what else. drunk driver was dead though. I couldn't even tell what either vehicle was. unreal
I've had a bunch where people lost control and went in to on-coming traffic, or fell asleep and did the same. Some of those scenes are surreal with victims and vehicles strewn about for hundreds of yards.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:16 AM   #24
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Yeah, you add up closing speed and think about what a 120 to 140 mph impact looks like, and it isn't pretty.

I used to help out the volunteer FD in Monterey when I was stationed there, and we picked up a couple that were spread out pretty good. One guy hit a concrete bridge abutment in a 911 Porsche "in excess of 150 mph" and basically sheared himself and the car over a couple hundred yards. Found out later it was suicide, and luckily he didn't take out anyone else.

Drunk drivers should be hung by the neck until sober.
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Question about the puk-ee drunks: Why is it that you guys can pick them up, take them to the lock-up, but have to call FD/ EMS to take them to the hospital because they're drunk? Or is that just our guys that do that?

Seems to me that if yall are capable of driving them to the pd, you'd be capable of driving them to the ER instead of taking an ambulance and pumper out of service to do it.
Those are the easiest cases to win, all you gotta do is get a warrant saying... "Pulled suspect over, had to call an ambulance to transport because they were so drunk, end of report." What else does a jury need to hear?

Tom, I always call EMS to the scene when someone is totally plastered, that way EMS can say they do/don't need to go to the hospital and they can also testify in court as to how drunk the person was... juries believe medics and firefighters more than cops anyways
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... juries believe medics and firefighters more than cops anyways
They obviiously haven't met Tom yet! J/K
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Calling EMS is just to Cover our ... We need to make sure that they are capaple of going to the jail without dying of alcoholic intoxication... second ( like Pre-K said ) it adds to your case when other Public Servants note the intoxicated state the suspect was in... such as slurred speach, swayed while attempting to keep balance, the smell of an alcoholic beverage on his person and breath, ect ect ect
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They obviiously haven't met Tom yet! J/K
Tom's a great guy... he doesn't work for Ride Smart!!!
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Plus you would rather have them puke in the ambulance instead of the back seat of your unit...
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Tom's a great guy... he doesn't work for Ride Smart!!!
Soooooo What are you saying??
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Calling EMS is just to Cover our ... We need to make sure that they are capaple of going to the jail without dying of alcoholic intoxication... second ( like Pre-K said ) it adds to your case when other Public Servants note the intoxicated state the suspect was in... such as slurred speach, swayed while attempting to keep balance, the smell of an alcoholic beverage on his person and breath, ect ect ect
Yeah, but then the officers (at least here) get upset because if they are able to answer the competency questions, they can make their own decision if they go to the hospital or not. If they're smart, they always take the hospital over jail, and that's a big hassle for PD. Most of the time, then end up dropping charges (I guess) and let them go rather than have an officer babysit the drunk at the ER.

That's another mis-conception about EMS too, we don't say "yeah, they need to go" or "no, they can stay", it's cut and dried. Either they can answer competency questions appropriately and make their own decision (PD can't answer for them), or they are not competent and HAVE to go to the ER. If they're so drunk they don't know their name or where they are, we don't have a choice but to take them. Same way with if they are competent, if they say they want to go, you have to take them. If they say they don't, we don't have to take them.

Thanks for answering, you guys gave better answers than the guys I work with gave me. It was always a touchy subject with our PD. Lots of arguments... long stories!
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hahaha, i had soemthing like that happen to me once, teh cop followed me to my house to make sure i made it home safe.
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Plus you would rather have them puke in the ambulance instead of the back seat of your unit...
Been there done that
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First, I cannot/will not give specifics such as names... but I do work In Pearville, so that eliminates Grandparkway...
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Tom, we only call EMS when we think they may be too drunk to go to jail... nobody likes an in-custody death!

I can hear the media now... "Officer Pre-K must have forced this innocent driver to drink more alcohol so he would die from alcohol poisoning."

And a big to the media for all past, present, and sure-to-be future -ups...
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Tom, we only call EMS when we think they may be too drunk to go to jail... nobody likes an in-custody death!

I can hear the media now... "Officer Pre-K must have forced this innocent driver to drink more alcohol so he would die from alcohol poisoning."

And a big to the media for all past, present, and sure-to-be future -ups...
True, true...
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and if they are to drunk to stand the jail wont take them... at least not in Harris County
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