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Old 11-20-2007, 09:51 AM   #1
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Cop has a strange way of stopping speeding biker

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If I,da thought he did that on purpose, be time for an whoppin, leave his ****in laying bleeding in the street
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Old 11-20-2007, 10:22 AM   #4
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not cool at all, thier radio can outrun any bike out there, there are so many other ways he could have handled that.
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Hard to say whether the cop was pulling out to stop them, or if it was a classic case of cager not seeing a speeding biker on the leftmost lane. He may have seen the group in general, but didn't realize there was a biker on that left-most lane. The reason I say this is because he didn't just clip the biker, he pulled out and the biker t-boned him at full speed.

I'll bet that he intended to just pull out a little to show his presence, again... not realizing there was a rider in the left-most lane. I cannot emphasize just how we really need to understand how blind we are to cagers, especially when we choose to speed in an urban environment. I have seen this exact thing happen over and over again. They do not see us, especially if they are distracted by other things.
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Nice post/assessment Rob...


how about what that rider did wrong?

Speed, excessive...
..left insufficient room/time to react.
Lack of attention to detail.. 'See the COP CAR ahead?'
Lack of attention to detail.. 'Why is that bike to my right slowing down?'
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OK, I just watched it in slo-mo. It does look like the cop meant to block them, since he was already heading into the center lane by the time the biker t-bone his right-rear 1/4-panel.


*sshole!!

Strange, though. At the beginning of the clip, there was a biker hanging out with the cop, shooting to breeze.
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Nice post/assessment Rob...


how about what that rider did wrong?

Speed, excessive...
..left insufficient room/time to react.
Lack of attention to detail.. 'See the COP CAR ahead?'
Lack of attention to detail.. 'Why is that bike to my right slowing down?'
Right on! But still, in slo-mo.... what was the cop thinking?!

It could well be that after pulling out a little bit, he then noticed the left-most rider, and he had to make a last-second judgement call to squeeze up just enough while at the same time not blocking the center-most rider, hoping to that he can get out of the way. Make sense?

I just don't believe that any cop would intentionally do this... It's like attempted murder.
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Alright, here I go again. With the center-lane rider already slowing down and coming to a stop, I believe the cop was pulling out with his attention focused on the front center rider (who, again, it appeared was coming to a stop). With his attention on that rider, and his general attention on the other riders behind him, he didn't realize the left-most rider, who just dropped his front wheel after doing a wheelie (which means his lights were not aiming straight forward, but up to the sky), and who also was speeding and passing the center rider, just as the cop was pulling out to stop the center rider. It all happened in a matter of few seconds, and at that guy's speed, he t-boned the cop in less than a few seconds.
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Nice post/assessment Rob...


how about what that rider did wrong?

Speed, excessive...
..left insufficient room/time to react.
Lack of attention to detail.. 'See the COP CAR ahead?'
Lack of attention to detail.. 'Why is that bike to my right slowing down?'

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I agree to me it looks like an accident. It looks like the cop was trying to stop the bikers thinking they had enough time to stop not seeing the first biker in the left lane. Either way I don't think that is a great way to stop traffic, Use the radio.
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I guess this cop would jump in front of a bullet to stop a robbery?

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Can't watch stuff from break.com at work, but if this is the European vid where the cop pulls out in front of the biker at what appears to be "the spot" I always thought that he definitely did it on purpose.

The cop may not have thought that the bike was going to hit his car - probably thought that he was just going to block the biker and force him to stop - which obviously wasn't possible.

If this is that vid, then to me it looks like negligence on the cop's part, at the very least.
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I agree to me it looks like an accident. It looks like the cop was trying to stop the bikers thinking they had enough time to stop not seeing the first biker in the left lane. Either way I don't think that is a great way to stop traffic, Use the radio.
Not a great way to stop traffic, but those other bikers were already coming to a stop. At least the center-lane rider was, and that's where the cop's attention was likely focused upon. he didn't see that left-lane rider. he was speeding, doing a wheelie, and passing the center rider all at the same time.
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Not a great way to stop traffic, but those other bikers were already coming to a stop. At least the center-lane rider was, and that's where the cop's attention was likely focused upon. he didn't see that left-lane rider. he was speeding, doing a wheelie, and passing the center rider all at the same time.
This must be the vid.

The cop looked to me to be pulling out with the specific intention of stopping the bike that ultimately hits him - precisely because he was riding a wheelie.

bet that cop wouldn't have pulled out in fron of a semi travelling at that speed. What'ya think?
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It's stupid enough to do a wheelie on a public urban road with many driveways, sidestreets, or turn-arounds in the medians. Cager are blind as a bat even with your headlight on high-beam, pulsing, and aiming straight into their eyes. Doing a wheelie, at high speed, with you in these conditions, is like clipping the ears off these cagers, and now their blind bats without ears, either. You're completely black and in full stealth mode when you choose to do that.
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I think the cop was well aware of traffic conditions.

He was sitting in the median, watching groups of bikes ride up and down the street around him.

Riding a wheelie down a crowded street may be bad, but it doesn't warrant the action that the cop took.
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This must be the vid.

The cop looked to me to be pulling out with the specific intention of stopping the bike that ultimately hits him - precisely because he was riding a wheelie.

bet that cop wouldn't have pulled out in fron of a semi travelling at that speed. What'ya think?
At first I thought the same as most of you guys. But when you get the chance, watch it in slo-mo, then think about all the stuff I wrote above (the blind man theory), and I'm almost certain you'll agree with my assessment. Cop or no cop, in those conditions, you are as blind to any cager as you can possibly be when you wheelie and speed in those conditions. There were so many things going on, from a large group of riders, to a large group of spectators, to just being in that urban environment in the first place.
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