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Old 11-15-2007, 04:16 PM   #81
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My very first post in this thread was this...

"True, Strong, Christian Values. I don't mean lip service Christianity either.'

I'm sorry you got screwed over by someone that claimed to be a Christian. Lets not generalize and put all Bible believing and practicing Christians in that catagory, okay?

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that is not at all what I was saying and would not say no one is what they say they are, but there are people out the that falsify who they really are to get what they want. I personally do not claim to be any particular religion, I believe in , but that does not mean I walk a straight line every day of my life, who does. I also believe there are good christian people in this world but you don't have to announce it to the world for it to be true. It is my opinion that we all walk our own path and there is only one higher justice that has a right to pass judgement.
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ya as far as education goes i know tons of people that are grown out of college or just out of hs and are lacking some of the basic that you learn in school
:/: + 5 billion. We need to return to a classical education model instead of social promotion.
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Embryonic stemcell research is murder, same as Abortion. They should both be outlawed. Every unborn child has a right to live.

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:/: + 5 billion. We need to return to a classical education model instead of social promotion.
ML, What does classical education model mean?
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Kids are the future of the nation. The president should have the future of the nation as a high priority, hence educating children to be the new leaders of the nation to come.

It doesn't work currently and that is why I am saying they should consider research, common sense and care when redoing the education system and not just looking at the cheapest way of getting the best test scores.

Kids are an investment and it irks me when they start talking about how much the public schools cost, blah blah. You get as much out of it as you put into it and as I said, if we don't keep with the times and develop a knowledgable workforce, the U.S. will lose out.
You have a tax that you have every year as a home owner. It's funds were set up so that the schools are taken care of. My daughter comes home every other week with paperwork for a new fund raiser because the schools don't enough cash flow to support all activities.
In Cypress with all these big houses and high taxes??!!
I am saying that if had business people in there focusing on where this money is going and fix the bleeding holes and move the cash to where it can do the most good will solve more problems that throwing more money at it until it goes away.
This same theory can used on all levels of government.
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You have a tax that you have every year as a home owner. It's funds were set up so that the schools are taken care of. My daughter comes home every other week with paperwork for a new fund raiser because the schools don't enough cash flow to support all activities.
In Cypress with all these big houses and high taxes??!!
I am saying that if had business people in there focusing on where this money is going and fix the bleeding holes and move the cash to where it can do the most good will solve more problems that throwing more money at it until it goes away.
This same theory can used on all levels of government.
So, the new president should work on revamping the education system including its financials. Fine with me. I still think teachers need to get paid more.
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Would that work in today's global economy?

Oh, and this would mean that there are no illegals anymore because anyone can just come as they please. :/:
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those really have changed too much over years and have evolved to a point where they really aren't the best path moving forward...
But I do understand the intent of returning our country to vision of what it was when it was founded.
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ML, What does classical education model mean?
Think of it this way, in the early years (grammar school/elementary school) kids are taught the basics in the core curriculum. In the middle years, they begin learning the rudiments of analysis, interpretation, simple rhetorical patterns, etc. By the later years, they should be able to solve complex problems, develop real solutions and articulate those solutions.

It's a very different mode than "teaching to the tests." Kids nowadays may know what an answer is, but they don't know why the answer is what it is. Other countries, Japan for instance, will let students wrangle with a problem for weeks (sometimes longer) until a solution is worked out. If the student can't solve it, the answer isn't given, the instructor backtracks and finds the gap in knowledge that is keeping the kid from working the problem out.
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Think of it this way, in the early years (grammar school/elementary school) kids are taught the basics in the core curriculum. In the middle years, they begin learning the rudiments of analysis, interpretation, simple rhetorical patterns, etc. By the later years, they should be able to solve complex problems, develop real solutions and articulate those solutions.

It's a very different mode than "teaching to the tests." Kids nowadays may know what an answer is, but they don't know why the answer is what it is. Other countries, Japan for instance, will let students wrangle with a problem for weeks (sometimes longer) until a solution is worked out. If the student can't solve it, the answer isn't given, the instructor backtracks and finds the gap in knowledge that is keeping the kid from working the problem out.
Sounds good to me! ... and yes, that is exactly what I was talking about.
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Think of it this way, in the early years (grammar school/elementary school) kids are taught the basics in the core curriculum. In the middle years, they begin learning the rudiments of analysis, interpretation, simple rhetorical patterns, etc. By the later years, they should be able to solve complex problems, develop real solutions and articulate those solutions.

It's a very different mode than "teaching to the tests." Kids nowadays may know what an answer is, but they don't know why the answer is what it is. Other countries, Japan for instance, will let students wrangle with a problem for weeks (sometimes longer) until a solution is worked out. If the student can't solve it, the answer isn't given, the instructor backtracks and finds the gap in knowledge that is keeping the kid from working the problem out.
or just teach basic spelling until you get it right... nothing says you are uneducated like misspelling a 4 or 5 letter word. i have known 12 year olds that spell better then a lot of 20 - 30 year olds. it's really pretty sad. i actually saw it more in oklahoma. the first 6 weeks of my calc class was teaching very basic algebra. x+56=90 what is x?
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oh and not a free mason

or new world order

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I'm too grim for it. My screensaver at work reads: "If you're happy and you know it, clank your chains."
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easy, let's not get carried way. the ability to spell doesn't give one the ability to run a nation.
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or just teach basic spelling until you get it right... nothing says you are uneducated like misspelling a 4 or 5 letter word. i have known 12 year olds that spell better then a lot of 20 - 30 year olds. it's really pretty sad. i actually saw it more in oklahoma. the first 6 weeks of my calc class was teaching very basic algebra. x+56=90 what is x?
I think I shall unleash the horror on you poor, unsuspecting folks. I've debated whether or not to scan in some of my students' work just to give you guys a taste of Education in America. I'll bring a few choice bits home from my private collection tomorrow. Be warned though. . .it isn't for the faint of heart.
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easy, let's not get carried way. the ability to spell doesn't give one the ability to run a nation.
HAHA but its a step in the right direction
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