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Old 11-15-2007, 10:30 AM   #61
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you are ridiculous, no offense I like you and all...but jesus christ...did they KNOW no one was home? what if there had been someone home that they didnt know about? I guarantee you they would have attacked him. They deserve to be dead. I would kill you if you broke into my house, no question. And I would expect anyone to defend their property.
They deserve to be dead. Does the fact that no one was home make it ok to break and enter into someone's private residence and take their belongings? They knew it could happen and took the chance and ended up getting what they deserve.
Im glad my neighbors have . And it sucks for your neighbors
I am riducoulus? Because I would not have the to kill someone for breaking into a home? They deserve to be dead??
ON WHAT ****ING GROUNDS? People are typically at work during those hours so in a criminals mind regarless of WHERE THEY CAME FROM would be well aware of this. I am not going to kill someone for stealing material when I know they are not home. Not calling the police, blocking them in? Yes that would sound more about a better way to handle it, but still an unsafe way to handle it. The only people I really care about are my family and the person who sleeps in the same bed with me every night. The person who will always pick me up when I fall down. Material doesn't matter. There are more important things in life that someone stealing my neighbors tv.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:30 AM   #62
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(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property; and
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I didn't know that, cool. So shooting as they run away is no longer a crime.
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presuming I recall correctly... us of lethal force (and force etc) in the TX legal code starts out...


'It is a DEFENSE against prosecution'...



9.43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON'S PROPERTY. A person
is justified in using force or deadly force against another to
protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if,
under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the
actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force
or deadly force to protect his own land or property and:
(1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful
interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or
criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property; or
(2) the actor reasonably believes that:
(A) the third person has requested his protection
of the land or property;
(B) he has a legal duty to protect the third
person's land or property; or
(C) the third person whose land or property he
uses force or deadly force to protect is the actor's spouse, parent,
or child, resides with the actor, or is under the actor's care.
This is the line I was thinking about...
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I didn't know that, cool. So shooting as they run away is no longer a crime.
guesss that answers my question alone with the third party questiong also
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I am riducoulus? Because I would not have the to kill someone for breaking into a home? They deserve to be dead??
ON WHAT ****ING GROUNDS? People are typically at work during those hours so in a criminals mind regarless of WHERE THEY CAME FROM would be well aware of this. I am not going to kill someone for stealing material when I know they are not home. Not calling the police, blocking them in? Yes that would sound more about a better way to handle it, but still an unsafe way to handle it. The only people I really care about are my family and the person who sleeps in the same bed with me every night. The person who will always pick me up when I fall down. Material doesn't matter. There are more important things in life that someone stealing my neighbors tv.
The chances of them getting caught is 50/50. What if they had something in their hand that is a prized possession that can't be replaced? My wife has jewelry that she wears from her great great grandmother. Can you imagine if they stole something like that? It isn't worth thousands of dollars, but it IS worth millions to my wife. Some material does matter to some for more than just dollar value.
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Let me put it this way...
They showed no respect for the owner, he land, his home, his property.
Therefore I do not feel a need to show any respect for their lives.
Now think, they didn't 'know' anyone wasn't home. Heck a teenager, a senior citizen could have been in there.
They had NO RIGHT to be on that persons property. They had NO RIGHT to attempt to enter his home. They had NO RIGHT to anything on his property or within his home.
The owner has a RIGHT to defend is home. The Owner has a RIGHT to grant permission to someone else to watch and protect his home.
I get what you are saying, and there are other ways to handle this. Don't call the police and then confront them and then kill them.

There are thieves of all ages, a teenager broke into my moms neighbors house and someone happened to be home. My friend threw him into the wall and he got into the window and made him stay in the house till someone came. Should he have shot the 12 year old little boy?
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ARE you sure on this? What about watch programs? What about a citizens arrest?
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This is the line I was thinking about...

Bill, you have to permission or give permission.
don't forget that Texas laws change at night. When the sun goes down anything goes!!!
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. Should he have shot the 12 year old little boy?
yes, he'll grow up to be a 30y.o. thief.

at 12 he knows right from wrong, esp. breaking into someobody house.
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You have got to be kidding. They broke into someones home. They violated the place they lived plus they stole things that didn't belong to them. This ain't stupid Europe you do that here you can end up dead. That is the chance they took.

Where do you live because I am sure the criminals would love to hit your house.
HAHAHA!!! I lived in a neighborhood that had drive way robberies! Stfu with that .
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I get what you are saying, and there are other ways to handle this. Don't call the police and then confront them and then kill them.

There are thieves of all ages, a teenager broke into my moms neighbors house and someone happened to be home. My friend threw him into the wall and he got into the window and made him stay in the house till someone came. Should he have shot the 12 year old little boy?
only in the knee though and poured salt in it.....so he would remember where stealing get you!!!
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I get what you are saying, and there are other ways to handle this. Don't call the police and then confront them and then kill them.

There are thieves of all ages, a teenager broke into my moms neighbors house and someone happened to be home. My friend threw him into the wall and he got into the window and made him stay in the house till someone came. Should he have shot the 12 year old little boy?
They should just wing'em.
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only in the knee though and poured salt in it.....so he would remember where stealing get you!!!
then his parents will come back and sue you for making him unemployablefor the rest of his life, like as if he was gonna become some sort of working person in the future.

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If they come here to commit crimes against us in our homes, yep, strip the right to live also. They would do the same to us in Mexico if we went over there and broke into their home. You can't deny that. Is that why they want to come steal here? Because we have more expensive goods and people like you would rather put them in jail for free food, free cable, central air and heat, recreational time, and free medical? When you spell it all out, why wouldn't an illegal come HERE to commit crimes. Its like the Hyatt Regency if you get caught.
When they threaten us, just if anyone threatened me it would be a whole other ball game! They came to steal goodies.
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Never wing them. You only want one version of the truth given to the grand jury...


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When they threaten us, just if anyone threatened me it would be a whole other ball game! They came to steal goodies.
and should die intead of getting a comfy stay at one of our taxpayer resorts.
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I didn't know that, cool. So shooting as they run away is no longer a crime.
NO...


the important part... 'It is a DEFENSE against prosecution'...
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no bill...thank you crystalline for giving the theives more incentive for committing crime.
Wtf am I doing other than stating my opinion?
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so cherub would shoot them, crystal would negotiate with them... if i ever break into crystal's house i sure hope she makes all the rules, i don't want to get shot!!!
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Bill, you have to permission or give permission.
don't forget that Texas laws change at night. When the sun goes down anything goes!!!
And also depends on the grand jury you get right? Like more racer x's, wlgormans and less crystallines right?
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There are thieves of all ages, a teenager broke into my moms neighbors house and someone happened to be home. My friend threw him into the wall and he got into the window and made him stay in the house till someone came. Should he have shot the 12 year old little boy?
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Depends..apparently he felt his could protect without the need for lethal force. 1 12yr old 'boy' as compared to 2 pre-adult/adult men?
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