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Old 11-15-2007, 01:53 PM   #281
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But it says to recover property? I agree, but loophole?
Neg, your taking it out of context of the whole statement. Ie: Complete legal code...
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:06 PM   #282
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so it's not OK to steal your stuff, but you'll stand by and let them steal your neighbors?
Say someone was stealing a samsund 50" lcd screen and the stereo system along with the speakers from your neighbors house and there were two of them and they both have a .40 on them. With you have a wife and kid(s), would you try to go over there and stop them knowing that YOU are risking so much more??
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:09 PM   #284
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**** that, 30-6 with a 5x from 500yds!

then walk back inside like nothing happened, no witness, no crime
Okay but you only have a 9mm....??


Side note: Dang I can't wait till we get our shotgun for the house!
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:10 PM   #285
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yes, b/c they wouldnt be expecting me to try to stop them. I would come from across the yard/street. they would be busy. I would blast one in the back of the head, then its 1 on 1. My .40 is semi- so a quick adjustment of aim and a follow up, situation over.

But yes. I would prob. think twice about it given that situation. Doesnt mean I wouldnt try to stop them. You are talking about a different situation.

If we were in MY house with a wife and kids and they came in with firearms it would be no different. As I stated earlier, my neighbor was locked & loaded ready to defend my girl and my house saturday night when strangers (to him) came to my door. So that in mind...yes I would do the same for him

and yeah you're right my arsenal is by no means limited to my HK .40
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:13 PM   #286
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yes, b/c they wouldnt be expecting me to try to stop them. I would come from across the yard/street. they would be busy. I would blast one in the back of the head, then its 1 on 1. My .40 is semi- so a quick adjustment of aim and a follow up, situation over.

But yes. I would prob. think twice about it given that situation. Doesnt mean I wouldnt try to stop them. You are talking about a different situation.

If we were in MY house with a wife and kids and they came in with firearms it would be no different. As I stated earlier, my neighbor was locked & loaded ready to defend my girl and my house saturday night when strangers (to him) came to my door. So that in mind...yes I would do the same for him

I was just giving out a hypothecitical question.. I think that criminals would be much more aware of their surrounding though..
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we can ask hypothetical questions all day but the reality is we live in America. On top of that, we live in Texas...most people here have the pride and the to defend their property and livelihoods with deadly force (and SOME of us are polite enough to care about our neighbors). Criminals get no respect and will be dealt with accordingly. Criminals know the possible consequences of their actions and face the possibility of getting killed when they come across an upstanding citizen. I love TEXAS and I feel safe with that thought in mind
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you know theres always a "throwdown" just in case.Might save the grand jury thing
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:24 PM   #289
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I love this place.

But having come from a different society.

It just amazes me how people are willing to kill.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:25 PM   #290
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Illegals or not. Someone doing a home invasion has the intention of do harm to whoever is inside it. Whether someone is inside the resident is not the point. The point being whoever these guys are broke the law. They can come over to work their tail off and earn their citizenship. I respect those people, but not ones that breaks into someone's house. If someone comes inside my home uninvited, they are getting a dose of 00buck to the chest. I would do this for my neighbors, and I would expect them to do the same for me.
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you know theres always a "throwdown" just in case.Might save the grand jury thing
lol I hope you arent talking about planting a weapon...
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:29 PM   #292
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But having come from a different society.

It just amazes me how people are willing to kill.
Same here.
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no,that would be illegal.But it can clear up a messy situation.Just kidding
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And talking about and doing it are two totally different things.Major life changing decision to take someones life
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But having come from a different society.
It just amazes me how people are willing to kill.

You have to keep in mind, words are different than action. It is easier to say you will do a thing, than to take action and do so. That is not to pass judgement on anyone here, but merely to comment on the reality of the situation.
At the heart however, we are animals... and survival is a basic function.

...most animals will defend their food, their home and their young. At the heart, we are not that different. Just varying degrees...or some people are different 'animals' than others.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:32 PM   #296
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I love this place.

But having come from a different society.

It just amazes me how people are willing to kill.
wha?

Didn't you say you were fom Brazil? I apologize if I'm mistaken.

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During 1980--2002, the homicide rate in Brazil more than doubled, from 11.4 per 100,000 population to 28.4. In São Paulo city, the rate more than tripled, from 17.5 in 1980 to 53.9 in 2002 (Figure 1). In 2002, a total of 49,570 homicides were documented in Brazil. Firearms and sharp objects were the weapons used in 34,085 (68.8%) and 6,728 (13.6%) of all incidents, respectively. In 2002, the homicide rate was 53.1 among males and 4.3 among females, and adolescent (aged 15--19 years) and young adult (aged 20--29 years) males accounted for 52.2% of homicide victims. By age group, the homicide rate was highest among young adult males (121.0).

In 2002, Brazil had one of the world's highest homicide rates, nearly four times higher than that for the United States (4). In 2000, Brazil accounted for an estimated 28% of all the homicides that occurred in the Americas, a region that has the highest homicide rate (4).
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completely different 'animals'

native texans vs. 'immigrants'

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...most animals will defend their food, their home and their young. At the heart, we are not that different. Just varying degrees...or some people are different 'animals' than others.
Defending and killing is even different to animals. For defense, most of the time, they just growl, bite, scratch, fight a bit, rarely do they go all the way to kill ... unless they are hunting for food.

I was once told by a Texas Ranger they are only three animals that enjoy killing or kill other than for food and that is wolves, cats and humans.

Note, wolves and cats are one of the closest animals to humans, they bred dogs out of wolves and keep dogs and cats for pets. Like minded
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well...if im defending myself im gonna make sure that whatever im defending myself against isnt gonna try it again. There is only one way to do that
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