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Old 11-15-2007, 12:37 PM   #241
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You can say in the Wild West, they needed a gun but today, we have alarm systems, well-trained Rottweilers, stun guns, pepper spray, etc I would like to think that there are a lot more possibilities to stop someone from stealing something than going to the ultimate death, wild-west gun shot.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:37 PM   #242
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Actually it is true, the law has not been removed even though our government won't allow that punishment to be used.
thanks for researching that...I was pretty sure it was still in place...more of a tradition though
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I had mixed feelings about this topic when I first read the story.

Now that I've thought about it I'll have to side with the old man. Having your home burglarized doesn't simply stop with lost possessions. It's followed by countless sleepless nights wondering if the burglars will come back, worrying if your children are safe, wondering about your bank accounts, how much personal info that the theifs made off with, etc. Theifs don't pick random houses to break into. They case the house for days or months to find out when the owners will be away. This is another thing for the victims to worry about.

While I do think it's dangerous to go around shooting people that you *think* are committing crimes, I think that it the old man did the right thing. He knew that the owners were out of town and he was protecting their property. According to the new law this is perfectly legal. Maybe the word will get out to the criminals out there ... break into a house and you get your a$$ shot. Makes me sleep better at night.

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You can say in the Wild West, they needed a gun but today, we have alarm systems, well-trained Rottweilers, stun guns, pepper spray, etc I would like to think that there are a lot more possibilities to stop someone from stealing something than going to the ultimate death, wild-west gun shot.
and that statement right there is encouragement for them to keep doing it, and to carry guns
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:39 PM   #245
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My mom was a barrel racer when she was younger, we never owned one past 16-18 years old due to moving circumstances. I do know how to ride, break and train, but I never knew they could live to be 30 years old. You just don't hear people talking about that much. That is awesome.
My old Barrel QH Mare is the 24 yrs old. Just two years ago she still ran a 15.8 in the local arena here (at Barker & 290). Due to arthritis, I had to retire her.

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and that statement right there is encouragement for them to keep doing it, and to carry guns
The death penalty hasn't stopped murder crimes, now, has it?
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nope but .45's have stopped them dead in their tracks...

no civilization or society has ever been able to stop murders or crimes...
all you can do is fight back, or take it and hope that justice is served...ill take the first option
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nope but .45's have stopped them dead in their tracks...
People still get murdered.
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You can say in the Wild West, they needed a gun but today, we have alarm systems, well-trained Rottweilers, stun guns, pepper spray, etc I would like to think that there are a lot more possibilities to stop someone from stealing something than going to the ultimate death, wild-west gun shot.
Fay, my home was broken into in 1997. The neighbor's teenaged kid & his friends did it - he even confessed to it! They took him downtown and his lawyer convinced him not to sign the confession. He was home by bedtime. I never got my stuff back and I near had to fight his punk-a$$ dad everytime I saw him (like it's my fault that his kid is a criminal). People need to know that there are consequences to burglarizing/invading someone else's home possibly including death. Your home is all you have. It should be a safe-haven, a 'castle' if you will. He told us that he would try to get our stuff back but that his 'friends' refused.

BTW - His friends attempted to break in again after all this happened. They tried the same method of getting into the house but we had made changes that stopped them. Too bad we didn't have a neighbor like Mr Reed.
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no but it stopped those particular murderers ,and how do you know if it prevented any others?And in my book there is no such thing as non-violent home invasion
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see my edit above...do you think you will ever be able to stop murders & violent crimes from occuring? Honestly?

let me guess...only if we take away all the firearms...
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You are totally within the law to defend the life and/or property of another, provided you could have/would have done the same if it was your life/property...

...and YAY!
Actually you don't as far as I know. :/:
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Fay, my home was broken into in 1997. The neighbor's teenaged kid & his friends did it - he even confessed to it! They took him downtown and his lawyer convinced him not to sign the confession. He was home by bedtime. I never got my stuff back and I near had to fight his punk-a$$ dad everytime I saw him (like it's my fault that his kid is a criminal). People need to know that there are consequences to burglarizing/invading someone else's home possibly including death. Your home is all you have. It should be a safe-haven, a 'castle' if you will. He told us that he would try to get our stuff back but that his 'friends' refused.

BTW - His friends attempted to break in again after all this happened. They tried the same method of getting into the house but we had made changes that stopped them. Too bad we didn't have a neighbor like Mr Reed.
too bad you didnt have a gun...or maybe you werent home...then Mr. Reed would be the answer

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no but it stopped those particular murderers ,and how do you know if it prevented any others?And in my book there is no such thing as non-violent home invasion
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too bad you didnt have a gun...or maybe you werent home...then Mr. Reed would be the answer



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We weren't home at the time.

I have a .357 Magnum and I'm a pretty good shot.
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We weren't home at the time.

I have a .357 Magnum and I'm a pretty good shot.
would you have shot them though...
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They are still people... They still have family, somewhere.
Yep just forget about the criminal part.
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I had mixed feelings about this topic when I first read the story.

Now that I've thought about it I'll have to side with the old man. Having your home burglarized doesn't simply stop with lost possessions. It's followed by countless sleepless nights wondering if the burglars will come back, worrying if your children are safe, wondering about your bank accounts, how much personal info that the theifs made off with, etc. Theifs don't pick random houses to break into. They case the house for days or months to find out when the owners will be away. This is another thing for the victims to worry about.

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That about sums it up.
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By the way my wife has 8 horses,3 saddlebreds 2 arabians 1 welsh pony and two quarter horses,
I got a lot of catching up to do, Actually, we are getting another mare. An old friend is dying of cancer and he wants me to have his horse.
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One of our saddlebreds is a charity case,really sad what some people do to horses
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