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Old 11-15-2007, 12:05 PM   #221
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Just so you know, he deserved what he got. No doubt, just stating the "STATE" is flawed. The gun is not.
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Old 11-15-2007, 12:08 PM   #222
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I always believe that life has more priority than materialistic things.

When someone crashed and he is okay but the bike destroyed, we always tell the person "A bike can be replaced or fixed, a human life cannot".

Again, none of this makes sense to me.
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Yep, and when that friend testifies to the GJ that he had permission (verbal agreement that is admissable) he will be sent home.

I think the shooter is going to walk on this one and rightly so. We are talking home owners vs criminals.
dead criminals at that.
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Faylarcia,my wife has horses and you being a horse person.If you saw someone about to shoot your horse,would you wait for them to kill the horse or stop them?
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Faylarcia,my wife has horses and you being a horse person.If you saw someone about to shoot your horse,would you wait for them to kill the horse or stop them?
We are talking about materialistic things. My horses are not considered material. If someone was going to steal my saddle, fine. I'd send my dog after them but I wouldn't shoot at them for a saddle.

I respect and love my life and can show some respect to other people's lives.

TV = human life... just looks and sounds wrong.
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We are talking about materialistic things. My horses are not considered material. If someone was going to steal my saddle, fine. I'd send my dog after them but I wouldn't shoot at them for a saddle.

I respect and love my life and can show some respect to other people's lives.

TV = human life... just looks and sounds wrong.
what would your dog do? and what if they shot/killed your dog? Your horses are your posessions...Im pretty sure I feel the same about my bike, car, house, everything IN my house as you do about your horses...you arent shooting the FOR a saddle, b/c its not like you are GAINING a saddle...you are protecting what you worked for...

You can respect someone else's life after they show no respect for yours? You may not think that the case...but I consider everything ive worked for my life...
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what would your dog do? and what if they shot/killed your dog? Your horses are your posessions...Im pretty sure I feel the same about my bike, car, house, everything IN my house as you do about your horses...you arent shooting the FOR a saddle, b/c its not like you are GAINING a saddle...you are protecting what you worked for...

You can respect someone else's life after they show no respect for yours? You may not think that the case...but I consider everything ive worked for my life...
Actually, I can debate that, horses are like one of your kids. A lot of horse lovers own a horse from the time it is 1yr old to be halter broke till the time they pass away at 16-18yrs old. They are one of your kids, even more than a dog is. It is nothing like a car or bike.
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what would your dog do? and what if they shot/killed your dog? Your horses are your posessions...Im pretty sure I feel the same about my bike, car, house, everything IN my house as you do about your horses...you arent shooting the FOR a saddle, b/c its not like you are GAINING a saddle...you are protecting what you worked for...

You can respect someone else's life after they show no respect for yours? You may not think that the case...but I consider everything ive worked for my life...
I believe the state of TX allows for horse thieves to be hung.
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what would your dog do? and what if they shot/killed your dog? Your horses are your posessions...Im pretty sure I feel the same about my bike, car, house, everything IN my house as you do about your horses...you arent shooting the FOR a saddle, b/c its not like you are GAINING a saddle...you are protecting what you worked for...

You can respect someone else's life after they show no respect for yours? You may not think that the case...but I consider everything ive worked for my life...
Did those robbers have guns and did they threaten the neighbor with those guns or did they even shoot at him?

I thought this was a plain non-violent robbery?

And no, I wouldn't shoot for my saddle, not even for my Champion Saddle. A life is more important, the rest is just 'things'.
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False. Maybe a century ago but not anymore.
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Im pretty sure there is still a law in place about fence cutting (rustling)...allowing the death penalty or hanging...I knew of a guy in brazoria county a few yrs ago rustling from Nolan's ranch, he didnt get hung though
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Actually, I can debate that, horses are like one of your kids. A lot of horse lovers own a horse from the time it is 1yr old to be halter broke till the time they pass away at 16-18yrs old. They are one of your kids, even more than a dog is. It is nothing like a car or bike.
Thank you!

I have five, including my little pony I've had since I was a young teenager. By the way, about the age, my oldest is 30 yrs (the pony) and my second oldest horse is 24 yrs, the rest is 16 - 5 yrs.
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I was just being silly.
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False. Maybe a century ago but not anymore.
well we are different then...a life of crime is not worth anything...all it does is cause pain and trouble for anyone around it
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I have five, including my little pony I've had since I was a young teenager. By the way, about the age, my oldest is 30 yrs (the pony) and my second oldest horse is 24 yrs, the rest is 16 - 5 yrs.
My mom was a barrel racer when she was younger, we never owned one past 16-18 years old due to moving circumstances. I do know how to ride, break and train, but I never knew they could live to be 30 years old. You just don't hear people talking about that much. That is awesome.
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I had mixed feelings about this topic when I first read the story.

Now that I've thought about it I'll have to side with the old man. Having your home burglarized doesn't simply stop with lost possessions. It's followed by countless sleepless nights wondering if the burglars will come back, worrying if your children are safe, wondering about your bank accounts, how much personal info that the theifs made off with, etc. Theifs don't pick random houses to break into. They case the house for days or months to find out when the owners will be away. This is another thing for the victims to worry about.

While I do think it's dangerous to go around shooting people that you *think* are committing crimes, I think that it the old man did the right thing. He knew that the owners were out of town and he was protecting their property. According to the new law this is perfectly legal. Maybe the word will get out to the criminals out there ... break into a house and you get your a$$ shot. Makes me sleep better at night.
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False. Maybe a century ago but not anymore.
Actually it is true, the law has not been removed even though our government won't allow that punishment to be used.
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