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Old 11-15-2007, 05:24 PM   #61
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To suggest that our troops are over seas fighting and dying to effectively cheapen my cost of gasoline and be fully acquiescent is both disturbing and sickening...

If that is the REAL reason we are there, then it further illuminates how grossly stupid this war is...particularly due to the deficit we are racking up there, we are cheapening gas and expanding the national deficit, economically retarded...
now RARELY (never) do i agree with racer x but his is right.... to some extent. its not the only reason behind the war, but it is part of it.

now i agree with the war, ive been there.... and they need help, badly... but us as americans are not going to stick are hand in a cookie jar and just get a cookie out for our friends.... no, we will get one for ourselves to. if iraq had no oil, nothing that we could benifit off of, we probably wouldnt be over there.

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now RARELY (never) do i agree with racer x but his is right.... to some extent. its not the only reason behind the war, but it is part of it.

now i agree with the war, ive been there.... and they need help, badly... but us as americans are not going to stick are hand in a cookie jar and just get a cookie out for our friends.... no, we will get one for ourselves to. if iraq had no oil, nothing that we could benifit off of, we probably wouldnt be over there.

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I agree, it may very well have been a factor, but since I can't prove it in any tangible way, I stay away from it, particularly because WE AIN'T GETTING ANYTHING FROM THEIR OIL FIELDS. That may have very well been part of the initial reasoning, but we aren't making any money off of it. Show me somewhere that says we are pulling more oil from Iraqi oil fields than purchasing from the Saudi OR if someone can even show me a "significant" amount of oil being gained from Iraqi oil fields, I'll be a happy man. I doubt such evidence exists anywhere other than in the minds of some of our more liberal brethren. The oil was supposed to have been able to finance the war but it ain't, that in and of itself tells me that oil isn't a current sentiment governing our efforts over there...
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I agree, it may very well have been a factor, but since I can't prove it in any tangible way, I stay away from it, particularly because WE AIN'T GETTING ANYTHING FROM THEIR OIL FIELDS. That may have very well been part of the initial reasoning, but we aren't making any money off of it. Show me somewhere that says we are pulling more oil from Iraqi oil fields than purchasing from the Saudi OR if someone can even show me a "significant" amount of oil being gained from Iraqi oil fields, I'll be a happy man. I doubt such evidence exists anywhere other than in the minds of some of our more liberal brethren. The oil was supposed to have been able to finance the war but it ain't, that in and of itself tells me that oil isn't a current sentiment governing our efforts over there...

i dont think we have gotten anything.......................................... ........ yet
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i dont think we have gotten anything.......................................... ........ yet
Well we've killed off a few thousand (or more ) terrorists as well as gained intelligence/insight on their infrastructure as well as acquired some keys players within their various organizations. So there is some good, but I think there was a better way to go about this and it didn't involve hundreds of thousands of troops. Spec Ops is a better tactical advantage in this operation than a conventional army. We should expand them and USE them, MORE....oh well, the next prez better be a good chess player...
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