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Old 11-09-2007, 10:45 AM   #41
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Why? Look at the pics, I doubt there's any way that broke before the crash. You can see the top part of the bracket still in the bolt. For it to break from compression, it would have had to rotate and then break. You can see in the pics that it broke cleanly downward with torsion or tension (twisting or pulling).

Triumph shouldn't have responsibility there... of course, these are pics and it may look different in person, but those pics are pretty telling IMHO.

Not to mention, with all the people racing these bikes, a "flaw" with design like is implied by the owner would have surfaced by now.
That was just my catch question. Either the story is false or he is contacting Triumph. :dontknow:
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That was just my catch question. Either the story is false or he is contacting Triumph. :dontknow:
Ahhhh, it all makes sense now
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don't ya know, it's always the bikes fault NEVER the riders.
I usually place the blame on other riders.
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no offense matt, but i saw the bike just after your wreck, and it showed no signs of being a mechanical failure. the eyewitness accounts from the rider behind you doesn't support it either. the eyewitness says you went wide, hit the gravel, lost traction, caught, highsided, and off you went.
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Why? Look at the pics, I doubt there's any way that broke before the crash. You can see the top part of the bracket still in the bolt. For it to break from compression, it would have had to rotate and then break. You can see in the pics that it broke cleanly downward with torsion or tension (twisting or pulling).

Triumph shouldn't have responsibility there... of course, these are pics and it may look different in person, but those pics are pretty telling IMHO.

Not to mention, with all the people racing these bikes, a "flaw" with design like is implied by the owner would have surfaced by now.
Moto rear suspensions rise when you roll on the throttle. This break looks like it happened while the frame was rising. The pic looks like the bike didn't go end to end but just slided. That would not have snatched the top off the part.
If there was a metalurgical problem in the parts and the torque from the engine cause the frame to rise as the throttle was rolled on in the corner, then this would look like a logical place to break and the point a max tension.

Just what I see...
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...but we are very glad that you are with us still. We all hope you continue to recover and get back on the bike again.
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Moto rear suspensions rise when you roll on the throttle. This break looks like it happened while the frame was rising. The pic looks like the bike didn't go end to end but just slided. That would not have snatched the top off the part.
If there was a metalurgical problem in the parts and the torque from the engine cause the frame to rise as the throttle was rolled on in the corner, then this would look like a logical place to break and the point a max tension.

Just what I see...
It the back of your bike is rising while you get on the gas you have bigger problems.
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but the dude commenting on the triumph site is a aviation expert....
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George Bush broke that linkage. Only reasonable theory.
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no offense matt, but i saw the bike just after your wreck, and it showed no signs of being a mechanical failure. the eyewitness accounts from the rider behind you doesn't support it either. the eyewitness says you went wide, hit the gravel, lost traction, caught, highsided, and off you went.
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but the dude commenting on the triumph site is a aviation expert....

And has worked with sheet metal for helicopters for ages...totally relevant to rear suspension breaking because it was faulty....Ok, I gotta leave this thread before I make enemies.
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no offense matt, but i saw the bike just after your wreck, and it showed no signs of being a mechanical failure. the eyewitness accounts from the rider behind you doesn't support it either. the eyewitness says you went wide, hit the gravel, lost traction, caught, highsided, and off you went.
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It the back of your bike is rising while you get on the gas you have bigger problems.
Put your front tire against a wall and use the friction zone on your clutch and see which way the back of your bike moves.
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yes, but that practice doesn't accuratly depict what is going on in the real world. where the bike's acceleration counters the rear wanting to rise with weight transfer from the front. every sportbike i've ever ridden has squated down in back under accel. shaft drives will rise tho.
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moving and stading still gets a different response buddy
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Put your front tire against a wall and use the friction zone on your clutch and see which way the back of your bike moves.
You must be correct. I always ride with a wall in front of me.

Seriously, if I have to explain this, you may want to sell your bike.
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