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Old 11-08-2007, 11:01 AM   #61
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Why are they better for drag racing?
more power, more parts, more aftermarket parts for drag racing...

honestly, if you are into dragracing that much, go get a busa/zx14



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Old 11-08-2007, 11:07 AM   #63
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the same reason you are asking about upgrading is the same reason i got a busa. i'm not all about dragging my knee in the corners, i like the thrill of the acceleration. if that is your vice you won't be happy until you get the most powerful bike out there, that is why i got the busa. i put a good 2000 miles on my first one before i even pegged the throttle, it has so much power. it was 3 months after getting it that i even hit redline in 1st. there is no substitute for raw size of the motor. a 600 wouldn't give me the kick in the that i wanted. i say don't dump the money in the 600, instead spend it on a bigger bike but the key is to USE THE POWER RESPONSIBLY
Excellent post!!! I have trying this argument with my wife but it hasn't worked yet.
I'm going to guess that the power to spin a back tire and throw the bike off balance is the biggest issue with a big cc bike. the design was to have a 40/60 % weight distribution and with accelerator cracked while cornering, but with 150Hp on a twist, you pass that quickly considering you only need to move less than 20% of weight.
Now on a straight and working traffic in a couple of lanes on the street, I can easily see how a big cc bike would come into it's own. BIG TIME!!!
USE THE POWER RESPONSIBLY like you and ZXALAN stated.
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more power, more parts, more aftermarket parts for drag racing...

honestly, if you are into dragracing that much, go get a busa/zx14



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Excellent post!!!
Now on a straight and working traffic in a couple of lanes on the street, I can easily see how a big cc bike would come into it's own. BIG TIME!!!
USE THE POWER RESPONSIBLY like you and ZXALAN stated.
definately in traffic, i love how i can be cruising at 70 in 6th, and just roll on the throttle when i change lanes or to pass soembody, and it accelerates like a 600 does in 3rd gear. but just because you have the power doesn't mean you have to ALWAYS use it.... there is a time and a place for that, some just go out of their way to find that time and place more often
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more power, more parts, more aftermarket parts for drag racing...

honestly, if you are into dragracing that much, go get a busa/zx14



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I am very cautious and careful when it comes to being on my bike. I'm not wanting to go crazy with a fast bike, I have grown up a lot in that respect over the years of having fast cars. Knowing you have the extra power is just always nice
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What would a.... lets say a stock 06' CBR1000RR that has been lowered and strapped run in the 1/4? I realize driver skill has a lot to do with it but just for comparisons sake.
According to Motorcyclist Mag.

CBR600RR ('05) 10.49 @ 133.3
CBR1000RR ('06) 9.898 @ 146.47

Of course these are Professional riders, etc...
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I am very cautious and careful when it comes to being on my bike. I'm not wanting to go crazy with a fast bike, I have grown up a lot in that respect over the years of having fast cars. Knowing you have the extra power is just always nice
this statements says that you don't need a liter bike or bigger. You can putt around on the 600 just the same.
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i agree it would be nice to have more power every now and then, but upgrading to a litre bike is pointless in houston, unless u are going to the drag strip. just bc 600 isnt the biggest, doesnt mean u have to move up.
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this statements says that you don't need a liter bike or bigger. You can putt around on the 600 just the same.
I could putt around on a 600 but where is the fun in that? I want a fast toy and the 600 isn't fast to me anymore. No, I don't need a liter bike but I also didn't need two cars in the past making over 650rwhp.

What exactly is the down side to jumping up to a 1k RR? The bike weighs what 10-20lbs more? Am I going to be disappointed if I jump up from a 600 to a 1k? If I had to guess I would say no.
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I realize that

The main point I am trying to get across is the bike feels slow to me now. I have owned 650-700rwhp cars that I felt completely comfortable driving but it starts getting really expensive to make more power once you are at that point :/:
600-700hp cars will not loop over on you or spit you off like a rag doll.
If you have not mastered throttle, clutch and braking control on your 600RR Then you are in for it.
For the use the power responsibly crowd... Thats laughable at best. Spooling the rear from a antifreeze puddle or some broke 's oil leak gets newbies in serious trouble on a litter bike. knows how wonderfully clean our streets are...

There is a reason insurance rates are sky high for liter bikes. Its called Claims.
and thats not every squids claim to know how to ride them....

Go to Golliad or Baytown to see just how far you can push that 600.
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Maybe I could get some lessons from you on how to handle things with a lot of power.
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Maybe I could get some lessons from you on how to handle things with a lot of power.
I have been riding on the streets longer than you have been alive... So that might be a good idea....

Just because your not getting the answer your looking for is no reason to get the old panties in a bunch. Your not the first kid to post about outgrowing his bike when in fact he doesn't really know how to ride.

As you alluded to in your other post. Take the MSF course learn to use the bike you have then upgrade down the road. Your less likely to become a statistic.

Your going to do what you want to do regardless of what is said on the board so what was the point?

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NO WAY a 600RR is going 10.49s in the real world....ESPECIALLY at stock height......Is it possible? YES with a GOOD light weight rider, the bike is lowered, strapped and you have about 20 spare clutch packs soaking in oil waiting to be put in...

If even a decent/novice rider took a stock 600RR to the track, I would be suprised if he went anything under 11.50s@125 on his first 2-3 trips to the track...

I went 10.40s@134 on a 02 Gix750 with a Ti Force pipe. It was strapped but not lowered. it took me 5 passes to get that and I am a decent rider, at the time I was only 160lbs suited. That was a 1.72 60' I believe.

Don't believe those rag mags "estimated" or even worse "corrected" 1/4 mile times and speeds...they don't really run those numbers....they run an actual number, say a 10.30@140, then they use some bull sh*t correction factor they come up with for altitude and correct it to 9.80s@145+.....IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.....If there was really that much power added to it due to the altitude, the bike would be wheelying all the way down...

I see stock GSXR1000s at stock height/gearing etc running 10.50s-10.80s all the time because its hard to launch a stock height bike....
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OH and I agree about taking the 600 to the strip first. If drag racing is something you want to pursue, its DEFINETLY better to start out on something with less power. Take the 600 to HRP, make some passes...Its a very humbling experience I assure you. Keep practicing, once you start getting used to it and chipping the ETs down, then maybe start looking at a bigger bike.

If you just want a faster bike for around town etc, buy one whenever you want but you have to be careful when starting to learn to drag race on bikes, they are NOTHING like cars at the strip.. Once you get used to them though they are way more fun, less maintenance, and get 40mpgs...

BTW my buddy's 600rwhp Z06 feels faster to me then my 1000.....Cars and bikes, you can't compare how they feel...

My 550rwhp Trans Am feels faster to me then a 600 or 750 but I know its not.
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I actually wanna take my 600rr to the track(baytown) sometime soon, we should go.
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I actually wanna take my 600rr to the track(baytown) sometime soon, we should go.
Maybe we should plan a motohouston track night at HRP....??? Maybe go on a sunday afternoon(friday nights are way too crowded). We could all meet up there at a certain area in the pits, meet up, hang out and race....Could be a lot of fun.
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Maybe we should plan a motohouston track night at HRP....??? Maybe go on a sunday afternoon(friday nights are way too crowded). We could all meet up there at a certain area in the pits, meet up, hang out and race....Could be a lot of fun.
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