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Old 11-06-2007, 07:55 PM   #1
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Quick question on classes

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sorry this is such a basic question but I have asked a few people and I am not finding the answer.

In motocross we had classes like

125 begineer
125 intermediate
125 adult
250 adult
250 expert
ect.

Is there a 600 begineer class?
How are the classes set up locally
I am sure when I hit my first track day It will become more clear i was just curious

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Everything is split up between Novice and expert
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if you mean track day, diff schools have diff ways of dividing

with LMS, its normally all run together, but sometimes have noob only days

with LSTD its
c -beginners
b -intermediate
a -expert

with ridesmart its 1,2,3, and 4 I think.
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Everything is split up between Novice and expert
So there is a

600 novice
600 expert
750 novice
750 expert

1000 expert only right?

I am talking about local races not how they are dividing up track days

but like I said I am sure I will hit up a few before I run a race

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"C" Superstock Novice - 600cc
"C" Superbike Novice - 600cc
You can also race your 600 in larger classes i.e. "B" - 750cc and "A" - 1000 as a Novice.

You can get more info here" www.cmraracing.com

Check out the link to the rulebook, it'll further explain the classses.
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I dont think hes asking about ACTUALL racing...(maybe he is)

he hasnt even done a trackday yet, and it seems thats what hes asking about(I could be wrong)
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I dont think hes asking about ACTUALL racing...(maybe he is)

he hasnt even done a trackday yet, and it seems thats what hes asking about(I could be wrong)

you are correct

I plan on actually racing my bike like i did dirt bikes , my cars ect...

I was just asking about general class info and like i had stated I will make track days before I try to enter a class,
just curious on how the classes broke down sence everyone I had asked was unclear and didn't seem to know

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You will have to take a riding school. Best way is to do that in conjunction with Ridesart or LSTD (forget which offers it) that is CMRA approved. You will get your "Yellow Shirt Provisional" novice approval. Then at the track you'll have to do 2 full cornerworking days and ride 2 race days without crashing while wearing your yellow shirt over your leathers. After these are all done you will advance from Provisional Novice to straight up novice. Moving to expert happens when you are too fast to be considered a novice. This can happen at race weekend two or twenty or never depending on how quick you pick it up. There are situations where you have to go to expert, and some situations where you can elect or be elected by the Board of Directors (BOD).

Get to the track and take a day to ask questions at a riders school. 2nd time out bring your bike and gear, start in the slow class. Third time out take the CMRA license course ($50 extra) and ride B group to get used to passing.

Go to the first CMRA event of the year and cornerwork both days (it'll be too cold to want to ride anyway). Cruise the pits and make friends. Now you are ready to race.

2nd CMRA race do the trackday on the Friday to get used to heated competition on the track you are planning to race on. It'll get you and the bike ready for Saturday and Sunday.

And above all else, go race a mini.
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You will have to take a riding school. Best way is to do that in conjunction with Ridesart or LSTD (forget which offers it) that is CMRA approved. You will get your "Yellow Shirt Provisional" novice approval. Then at the track you'll have to do 2 full cornerworking days and ride 2 race days without crashing while wearing your yellow shirt over your leathers. After these are all done you will advance from Provisional Novice to straight up novice. Moving to expert happens when you are too fast to be considered a novice. This can happen at race weekend two or twenty or never depending on how quick you pick it up. There are situations where you have to go to expert, and some situations where you can elect or be elected by the Board of Directors (BOD).

Get to the track and take a day to ask questions at a riders school. 2nd time out bring your bike and gear, start in the slow class. Third time out take the CMRA license course ($50 extra) and ride B group to get used to passing.

Go to the first CMRA event of the year and cornerwork both days (it'll be too cold to want to ride anyway). Cruise the pits and make friends. Now you are ready to race.

2nd CMRA race do the trackday on the Friday to get used to heated competition on the track you are planning to race on. It'll get you and the bike ready for Saturday and Sunday.

And above all else, go race a mini.

Thanks that helps,
I don't forsee ever going expert I just want to hit 2 or so events a year just for fun I am not much of a spectator

Like i said it will be a while and I planned on hitting track days and such but I just wanted a class brake down

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ok, now im slightly confused...

trackdays and racing are two different things

you dont actually race at a trackday
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races are split among class and status....engine size/type and novice/expert

there are 2 seperate classes among 1 engine size/type. you have superstock and superbike. different restrictions in each.

for example (C = 636cc inline 4 or less, and 675 triple or less)

C superstock novice (tire and engine restrictions)
C superbike novice (little to no restrictions)


you can race in a higher class...but you cannot go in a lower class

for example (A = 1000cc's)

a 600 can race in a "A superstock" race.....but a 1000cc cannot race in a "C superstock" race.


hope that helps. take advantage of the season being over, do all your homework, try to get some trackdays in, do the licensing class....and get ready for the start of next racing season (which should start in feb)
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ok, now im slightly confused...

trackdays and racing are two different things

you dont actually race at a trackday
i think he wants to race.....and of course trackdays as well.

but he's inquiring about actually racing.
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i think he wants to race.....and of course trackdays as well.

but he's inquiring about actually racing.
you got it

That helps

I just wanted to make sure there was a 600cc novice class
I didn't want to have to go out and get another bike to start on

It was a simple question sorry for the comfusion,

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are you going to be running your 98 in the races?
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yeah, you can definately run your bike in the 600 class.....you'll be running along side me as well. btw, dirt racers usually fare pretty well when they start road racing.
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yeah, you can definately run your bike in the 600 class.....you'll be running along side me as well. btw, dirt racers usually fare pretty well when they start road racing.
+1, there are a couple that are first year racers this year and second year racers with class championships.

Hit up some track days first, I like Peter's advice on that.
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BTW that 98' can be run in classics in 2008, it's 10 years old next year. Good chance for some contingency.


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