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Old 11-04-2007, 04:42 AM   #21
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if your scraping ur pegs first... ur definitely not having the right body position..should be scraping ur knee pucks..take it to the track and learn the right position n if ur still scrap pegs then get sum aftermarket rearsets(Attack/vortex)..these aftermarket rearsets have more ground clearance(placed a lil higher than stock pegs) and they r stronger...ride safe.

p.s..scraping ur pegs is just gonna slow u down...
its not that im scraping my pegs first,,, its that i can only scrape my pegs, bc i dont have knee pucks. and i was just wondering what everyone did for their first experience.
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Old 11-04-2007, 06:20 AM   #22
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For most of us pegs are gonna be first, cuz most of us did'nt have pucks either.


However,

1) When your pegs touch, they take some of the weight your tires were carrying. If they touch just a little too hard, they take enough weight to cause traction loss and down you go... remember when you are leaned this far the tires are approaching the limit of what they can do, unload them at this point and it could get ugly.

2) If you fall while doing this, your jeans will wear through in about .00002 seconds and then your skin and knee cap go next.

3) I know this sounds scary, but, come out to MSRH on 11/24 even if only to watch. A year ago I was scared to do this too. It is the MOST fun you can have on a motorcycle.
There are people that will help you get started, get faster and get better. I promise that you will like it so much, you will lose some interest in riding on the street.
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Your 1st question will be is it expensive to get started... so I will answer it now.
It costs a LOT less than just the ambulance ride when you grind a hole in your knee. With the bonus of less pain and suffering.
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:54 AM   #24
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Yeah, after your trackday you should go see Chris/ Solracer. He takes awesome pics and he owns MotoHouston.com

His pics will be a great tool on your quest to be a better rider. (and their great for showin' off to yer buddies too!)
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if your scraping ur pegs first... ur definitely not having the right body position..should be scraping ur knee pucks..take it to the track and learn the right position n if ur still scrap pegs then get sum aftermarket rearsets(Attack/vortex)..these aftermarket rearsets have more ground clearance(placed a lil higher than stock pegs) and they r stronger...ride safe.

p.s..scraping ur pegs is just gonna slow u down...


dude........you should take advice and listen to experienced track guys/racers. Houseofpain is right. thats the first thing that they teach you at trackdays. if you are dragging hard parts that IS NOT the correct way. i have no idea why you think dragging your peg is cool or right or whatever you think it is. im not trying to be rude here but you definitely have bad body position if you are dragging your peg. if your body position was right then you wouldnt even scrape your peg. you would touch your knee and your boot. trust me its wrong hitting your peg. listen to us im sure we have more track time and more help from very experienced racers

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its not that im scraping my pegs first,,, its that i can only scrape my pegs, bc i dont have knee pucks. and i was just wondering what everyone did for their first experience.
I get what you're saying but you're body position is probably not what you think it is. If you're body positioning is proper then all you would have to do is hold your leg in a little, to keep from touching knee, and you should still be able to make the turn without scraping a peg.


In regards to your question, I scraped knee first. First time to drag peg was at my last track day in October. First my knee then further into the turn my peg as well. Pretty sure my body position wasn't correct b/c I was tired. All knee/peg dragging I do stays at the track.

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I scraped pegs at first... then toes... and now I scrape (in following order) knee...toes...pegs.

But my body positioning is a work in progress.(my boots are toast btw)
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my toes scraped first on street. Then when I got to the track my knee came next. I can't say Ive noticed myself ever dragging my peg (at least they dont look scrapped).

Anyway, I dont advise you to drag peg. Easy way to take a fall.

Recommendation: don't drag anything till you get to the track.. then you can drag your whole body if you want.
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my toes scraped first on street. Then when I got to the track my knee came next. I can't say Ive noticed myself ever dragging my peg (at least they dont look scrapped).

Anyway, I dont advise you to drag peg. Easy way to take a fall.

Recommendation: don't drag anything till you get to the track.. then you can drag your whole body if you want.
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even with stock rearsets....i think i could drag elbow before pegs. i could still go way over and pick my knee up and still have proper body position. it takes seat time with proper instruction to do so. that's what a few trackdays will teach you.

believe me, this apple didn't fall too far from the tree. i also thought i was doing things right.....until i humbled myself, and let people prove me wrong. once you get proper instruction, and seat time....everybody's instruction/advice to you now will make more sense.
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my first trackday i scrapped knee toe and peg. in the same turn lol
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i dont have enough money to do more trackdays....if i did i would be there everytime learning more
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i have no track experience yet, thats why im on this forum to get educated from people who know, thanks a bunch for all the input, it really helps me out and gives me a better idea what to expect from a trackday, hopefully i wont be too startled the first time i scrape a knee or toe. (if that ever even happens)hahaha
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yeah, because if you do, you need to remove them. those things will drag with the slightest bit of lean angle.

before you go out on the street and drag some bike/body parts......seriously, come out to a trackday. if you're gonna do that kind of stuff on the street....at least get some input if you're doing it correctly. it would suck to eat some pavement and have a car run you over, or go sliding into some barb wire and get your head chopped off or something. don't be a statistic bro.
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I think I'm mis-understanding you. So that you don't mis-understand what I'm saying, I'll try it again because I think some folks aren't getting it.

If you have stock rearsets, likely you'll scrape pegs first. Scraping pegs usually won't cause you to high-side, unless you're really digging in. Scraping pegs is not a sign of incorrect body position either with stock pegs/ rearsets. Of course, all of this isn't all-encompassing, but stock pegs are going to scrape earlier than anything else most of the time. If you're dragging a knee with stock pegs, you may be leaning too far off. Of course, this is all said without actually seeing you!

What I posted earlier is with my bike which has adjustable rearsets, which are higher and further back than the stock location, so I'll hit knee, then toe, then peg- but purely from a location standpoint of location of the pegs themselves.

Next year, if you can't afford track days, get with me and I'll show you the way to "free" track time. Send me an email with your contact information:

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If you're dragging a knee with stock pegs, you may be leaning too far off.
From personal experience, this is not entirely true. But as Tom stated, it doesn't necessarily mean body position is right or wrong, just means your riding style (whether good or bad) plus your bike setup(ride height, suspension, etc.) is causing this to occur. And yes, stock pegs (or toe) will most likely be the first thing to drag for a beginner (again, depending on riding style).
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