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Old 11-01-2007, 04:16 PM   #41
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hey tony you coming this saturday to msr-h is a tsba trackday but they had a couple of spots left
no i can't make it this saturday....if i do, it will be last minute
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carbonr1 is right so first do this
1.msf course
2.motohouston lead ride
3.jimmys sunday morning ride
3. and then you ready for longhorn motorcycle school all the guys there are ready to help you all the way and in anything you need
if any new rider follows this, he/she is gonna get themselves into some big trouble fast.

You guys have to admit that a Regular day with the Buckster is NOT very safe for a noob. The pace is too fast for someone that doesn't know what is going on and how to get around a track.

A Jimmy's sunday morning ride is not the safest "next choice" either judging from the past history and the speeds in which the guys carry throughtout their rides.

Not to step on any toes here but, it is what it is..

The guy needs to do the MSF first, get a little street time in with some of the more responsible and mature riders. (no names mentioned nor left out) Keep it easy, learn the good (right) habits of riding and handling a motorcycle.

Track time is great for anyone at any time, an excellent learning tool to say the least.

But, you're only as good as what you're taught or what you learn and learning bad habits will get you hurt quick.

You have numerous choices on trackday org's. all are good but some are just better suited for the needs of a fellow like this guy.

Buck's "noob" day is great also but they are few and very far between.
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what's the use of going 170mph on TWS (Texas World Speedway) and then slow as true the tight stuff, msr-h will get you up to skills and then you can be fast all around
whats the use of going 170 ANYWHERE to begin with??

Unless you're Racing or, hauling down the drag strip, there is no need in the world to be traveling that fast.
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so who do you suggest he ride with to get his street experiece?
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so how fast you go in TWS (Texas World Speedway) in the long straight 95mph
Speaking as an experienced noob and non-racer, I can say that 130-140 mph is plenty on the straight at TWS (Texas World Speedway).
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so who do you suggest he ride with to get his street experiece?
who ever he deems the right person! as i said in the post, (no names mentioned nor left out)

prefferably, GIRLS j/k...

Def. not someone who'll show him the wrong ways to ride and treat other motorists.

How many of you guys use not only your bikes turn signals but also your hand signals?? I do, i learned this years ago from riding with "responsible" riders who tried their best to show me the right way!
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so who do you suggest he ride with to get his street experiece?
close friends who dont get into trouble while riding..... Thats a good place to start.... well, thats what I did.
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so how fast you go in TWS (Texas World Speedway) in the long straight 95mph
doesn't really matter, i know MY speeds through there but, thats not the point here jimmy, you're trying to tell this guy that he can and that its ok to run 170?? it's not ok. Thats not the way of the Jedi!!!

sure, we can string em out at TWS (Texas World Speedway) but, i suggest that no one (a trackday participant) tops their bike out there, it just isn't safe. i've seen guys run off doing 70 mph there.

120-140 is plenty fast enough. you're not at Baytown.
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Speaking as an experienced noob and non-racer, I can say that 130-140 mph is plenty on the straight at TWS (Texas World Speedway).
I max out at 140 on TWS (Texas World Speedway)'s Strait....
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close friends who dont get into trouble while riding..... Thats a good place to start.... well, thats what I did.
+ 1, small group, 4 - 5 riders, preferrably experienced but very patient with noobs.
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I max out at 140 on TWS (Texas World Speedway)'s Strait....
and thats perfect.

as Ronnie always asks, "are you here to see how fast your bike will go in a straight line"?

if that is your purpose here, you're on the wrong track.

The only advice i have for the kid is, choose your riding partners wisely and listen to your instincts. Gut feelings do come in handy.
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you are wrong i was saying that there is poeple that might go 170 on TWS (Texas World Speedway) at the straights but park it at the turns and that if they do msr-h they can be fast all over the track not just on the straights ,come on guy you need a translator do not answer that, to me msr-h if you rally want to be fast all around the track, can you hear me now
well, why cant you do the exact same thing at TWS (Texas World Speedway), or Cresson, or Oakhill??

answer that?

i can still get my bike up to 140+ on the backstraight at MSR-H. does that mean that i park it in the turns too Jimmy?
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you can learn to go fast on and at any track, doesn't have to be 1 track that you learn to go fast on.

So, from what you are saying to me is that, IF i don't ride MSR-H, i will never get fast?? yes or no?
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I max out at 140 on TWS (Texas World Speedway)'s Strait....
go full speed through turn 1.....you'll lose a few seconds off your lap time just from that turn.

i'm at whatever mph 6th gear redlines at coming into turn 1.....it's a pucker upper the first time through.
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yes.......... im talking about new riders you
i see lots of "old" riders doing it too, and it's prolly a bi-product of "BAD HABITS".
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